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Well, the little Apple adapter from 30 pin to lighting arrived. The iPad Air 2 fit nicely (without the B&O plastic bumper), though I planned to make holes on the bumper as needed to fit.
But, alas, my A3 is dead or nearly so. It played music from the iPad Air 2 from battery for a couple of hours, and then it wouldn’t start, not even plugging it. Nor with an iPad 4 (which is almost the same as an iPad 3, except for the connector), nor with my iPhone X.
Since this was the same behavior that led me to buy a replacement batt., I took out the new batt and tried the old. Surprise! It would start (little red light)… and then die in about 6 seconds. With either of the two Apple adapters (the one with the wire and the compact one).
After a while it wouldn’t anymore, so I put the new batt back in. Again, works for a few seconds. I note the iPod classic doesn’t charge anymore either, even if the A3 starts for a few seconds.
I haven’t reported here that the phenomenon that led to the erratic no-iDevice charging and eventually death of the battery is that the old Varta got hot (and warmed up the whole thing) following my first full charge of the A3.
So my theories are:
(1) The new replacement battery, being old stock, is also dead. It was only $10, so no big faith can be laid on it; or,(2) The runaway heating event damaged the charging components of the A3. It has now become a battery killer (charged the Varta to full once, killed it, charged the new battery to full once, killed it). Also, that event damaged the A3’s ability to charge the iDevices, since the A3 has not charged the iDevices anymore, but it did before the Big Heating. This would also explain why the iPod no longer charges, but it did before.
What may have damaged the A3? It certainly was a pristine, sealed item. Perhaps the new devices, connected via Apple official adapters were too much for it, which may be a warning to other owners. Perhaps the original Varta was damaged and in the process of destroying itself it damaged the A3. Perhaps my new A3 was defective from the factory!
C’est la vie! Not sure where we go from here.
I attach a photo of the RJ-45 connector inside the A3 I took as I replaced the battery.
Any photographs of the BeoSetup app showing an A3 with sw version 1.0.0.4 would be appreciated.
Cheers to all,
Hello Matador,
I think the charging issue may be related to the battery and I’ve ordered a new one. Unused and improperly stored lithium batteries actually last less than batteries that see use throughout their life.
Regarding 1.0.0.0, without much hope, I contacted B&O, who replied «the technical team has confirmed that there is no software update available for Beoplay A3». I don’t like this answer. A more straightforward reply could have been “software updates are no longer available“, or “we no longer support the A3 product.” These responses would be entirely acceptable, and honest.
But their response is as if no update had ever been made available. I grant there might be something lost in translation. Still, I wish I had a photograph of someone with 1.0.0.4. Perhaps you could post one?
I’ll post a photograph of the inside RJ-45 connector when I install the new battery.
Thank you. I downloaded Beosetup and as you can see, my sw is 1.0.0.0. Alas!, “update product software” asks if I want to check for a new version; after a couple of seconds, it asks if I have internet connection (!). B&O has probably restructured its servers and it could be the old app can’t find the repository.
I think I may have downloaded at some point the PC B&O service software but even if I were to gain access to the update file, I don’t have a USB to RJ-45 interface cable to update via the connector in the battery compartment of the A3.
One deficiency my A3 has, which may or may not be software related, is that it only wants to charge the iPad if the iPad has less than about 60% battery. If it has more than that, the A3 ceases to supply charging power to the iPad. This occurs whether the A3 is hooked to power or not.
Any other ideas?
Thanks to all who commented.
Matador: I took the A3 out of its 9-year-old box and immediately connected its power supply and the iPad Air 2. Its behavior was exactly as you describe: «the touch function of the iPad become erratic»; and of course the battery was flat at the time.
After a few minutes, as the A3 charged up, the problem went away. Since the touch function relies on electricity, this points to some poor or ungrounded or undampened electric connection inside the A3 which is exacerbated when the batteries are low.
If this problem did not exist when your A3 was new, then something inside the A3 is aging (a capacitor or somesuch?), regardless of whether your A3 has been in use for a decade or new in a box, like mine.
If the problem existed when the A3 was new, then this is a design defect.
Is there a way of finding out what the software version on the A3 is?
Wow, MM, it is great to hear the iPad One’s Spotify still worked as of a while ago! That’s good info and augurs well for A3 usefulness for at least a few years. Our iPad 4 plays Deezer and a prior version of the B&O app, but it no longer plays YouTube, for example; this is why I opted to not purchase an iPad 3.
The Dremel project was a success! The B&O switch in the back is in the fully retracted position in the picture below, and the adapter is fully inserted, and the A3 is playing from an iPhone X —works with the iPad Air 2, also.
Following some eye-sight fitment calculations, I’ve ordered an Apple 30 pin to lightning adapter A1468, should arrive in a week. I expect this will work.
By the way, a final-generation iPod Classic (color screen) charges from the A3, but no sound comes out of it. No sound was expected; charging came as a surprise.
Wife has the H95 in silver.
She only uses the cloth that came with it, wetted, to clean these. She won’t wear them unless she’s just washed her hair. I’ve seen her on occasion wrap a handkerchief around the top.
They still pick up dirt/colors easily.
She says maybe dark blue/black would have been a better option.
Any cleaning tips much appreciated!
Very nice post, Millemissen. I’m not sure I ever knew of him, but of course even I have seen his diagrams.
Ave atque vale.
I paid £201 for mine a few months ago, so you did very well indeed!
On iPad, it is impossible for anyone to send you the app. The app may only be downloaded from the App Store, if it is at all available.
I am rather curious as to whether you eventually solved this issue. Can you share?
Thank you Anneblack, Mr10Percent, and Hiort. Very useful information.
I concur that at least part of Anneblack’s info is unlikely, and I really appreciate Mr10’s detailed feedback.
I would also be extremely keen on an image of the page that describes how to remove the cover —or perhaps, from the drawing, the front glass (!)— so that one can get to the step of battery removal.
Thank you in advance,
ebnrob, you may have misunderstood me. There is no new version that works (in my case).
On the contrary, the surprise is that using an obsolete iPad with ancient Apple and B&O software, Deezer works… on the obsolete iPad.
On my new devices with the latest Apple and B&O software, no joy.
Your recommendations worked, on the main! System is stable. Beo4 useful only to skip to next track, and to turn off the BL sources.
BLC NL/ML – ML role: V Master – IR Option: 1 (but no eye) — Network delay, wireless: 1000 —Network delay, wired: 50
BM5 — Slave
BS3000 —A. Option 6
A6 — Primary Product: BLCTwo little niggles:
A) The audios don’t quite appear to be synched. 99% of the time it sounds like they are but 1% (especially with highs?) it sounds as if a modest reverb is on. Don’t know what to do.
B) Brilliant, a CD (for instance) can be started from the A6. But BLC NL/ML behavior is inconsistent. Once sound starts playing on A6, the BLC is already joined, without intervention. Which in our use case is virtually always OK; however, 50% of the time volume is non-regulable on the BLC on the B&O app: no matter how you spin the volume button, the volume does not change. The result has been that we don’t start from the A6.
Thanks again!
Here’s a bunch of errors all within a few minutes. This repeats dozens of times a day.
From a user perspective, the system appears to be working alright, but if memory wear is an issue, my BLC is not long for this world!
Apr 10 00:18:12 (none) BLC[6286]: [info]:Client disconnected. Message: Socket error. Error: Broken pipe, ErrorCode: 32 [Notifier.cpp:233]
Apr 10 00:18:12 (none) BLC[6286]: [info]:Dismissing HTTP Response due to errorState [Http.cpp:349]
Apr 10 00:18:27 (none) BLC[6286]: [info]:Client disconnected. Message: Socket error. Error: Broken pipe, ErrorCode: 32 [Notifier.cpp:233]
Apr 10 00:18:27 (none) BLC[6286]: [info]:Dismissing HTTP Response due to errorState [Http.cpp:349]
Apr 10 00:30:00 (none) BLC[6286]: [info]:Client disconnected. Message: Socket error. Error: Broken pipe, ErrorCode: 32 [Notifier.cpp:233]
Apr 10 00:30:00 (none) BLC[6286]: [info]:Dismissing HTTP Response due to errorState [Http.cpp:349]
Apr 10 00:30:31 (none) BLC[6286]: [info]:Client disconnected. Message: Socket error. Error: Broken pipe, ErrorCode: 32 [Notifier.cpp:233]
Apr 10 00:30:31 (none) BLC[6286]: [info]:Dismissing HTTP Response due to errorState [Http.cpp:349]
Apr 10 00:30:41 (none) BLC[6286]: [info]:Client disconnected. Message: Socket error. Error: Broken pipe, ErrorCode: 32 [Notifier.cpp:233]
Apr 10 00:30:41 (none) BLC[6286]: [info]:Dismissing HTTP Response due to errorState [Http.cpp:349]
Apr 10 00:30:52 (none) BLC[6286]: [info]:Client disconnected. Message: Socket error. Error: Broken pipe, ErrorCode: 32 [Notifier.cpp:233]
Apr 10 00:30:52 (none) BLC[6286]: [info]:Dismissing HTTP Response due to errorState [Http.cpp:349]
Apr 10 00:31:02 (none) BLC[6286]: [info]:Client disconnected. Message: Socket error. Error: Broken pipe, ErrorCode: 32 [Notifier.cpp:233]
Apr 10 00:31:02 (none) BLC[6286]: [info]:Dismissing HTTP Response due to errorState [Http.cpp:349]
Apr 10 00:31:12 (none) BLC[6286]: [info]:Client disconnected. Message: Socket error. Error: Broken pipe, ErrorCode: 32 [Notifier.cpp:233]
Apr 10 00:31:12 (none) BLC[6286]: [info]:Dismissing HTTP Response due to errorState [Http.cpp:349]
Apr 10 00:31:22 (none) BLC[6286]: [info]:Client disconnected. Message: Socket error. Error: Broken pipe, ErrorCode: 32 [Notifier.cpp:233]
Apr 10 00:31:22 (none) BLC[6286]: [info]:Dismissing HTTP Response due to errorState [Http.cpp:349]
Apr 10 00:31:33 (none) BLC[6286]: [info]:Client disconnected. Message: Socket error. Error: Broken pipe, ErrorCode: 32 [Notifier.cpp:233]
Apr 10 00:31:33 (none) BLC[6286]: [info]:Dismissing HTTP Response due to errorState [Http.cpp:349]
Apr 10 00:31:43 (none) BLC[6286]: [info]:Client disconnected. Message: Socket error. Error: Broken pipe, ErrorCode: 32 [Notifier.cpp:233]
Apr 10 00:31:43 (none) BLC[6286]: [info]:Dismissing HTTP Response due to errorState [Http.cpp:349]
Apr 10 00:31:53 (none) BLC[6286]: [info]:Client disconnected. Message: Socket error. Error: Broken pipe, ErrorCode: 32 [Notifier.cpp:233]
Apr 10 00:31:53 (none) BLC[6286]: [info]:Dismissing HTTP Response due to errorState [Http.cpp:349]Apr 10 00:32:03 (none) BLC[6286]: [info]:Client disconnected. Message: Socket error. Error: Broken pipe, ErrorCode: 32 [Notifier.cpp:233]
Apr 10 00:32:03 (none) BLC[6286]: [info]:Dismissing HTTP Response due to errorState [Http.cpp:349]
Apr 10 00:32:14 (none) BLC[6286]: [info]:Client disconnected. Message: Socket error. Error: Broken pipe, ErrorCode: 32 [Notifier.cpp:233]
Apr 10 00:32:14 (none) BLC[6286]: [info]:Dismissing HTTP Response due to errorState [Http.cpp:349]
Apr 10 00:32:24 (none) BLC[6286]: [info]:Client disconnected. Message: Socket error. Error: Broken pipe, ErrorCode: 32 [Notifier.cpp:233]
Apr 10 00:32:24 (none) BLC[6286]: [info]:Dismissing HTTP Response due to errorState [Http.cpp:349]
Apr 10 00:32:34 (none) BLC[6286]: [info]:Client disconnected. Message: Socket error. Error: Broken pipe, ErrorCode: 32 [Notifier.cpp:233]
Apr 10 00:32:34 (none) BLC[6286]: [info]:Dismissing HTTP Response due to errorState [Http.cpp:349]
Apr 10 00:32:44 (none) BLC[6286]: [info]:Client disconnected. Message: Socket error. Error: Broken pipe, ErrorCode: 32 [Notifier.cpp:233]
Apr 10 00:32:44 (none) BLC[6286]: [info]:Dismissing HTTP Response due to errorState [Http.cpp:349]
Apr 10 00:32:55 (none) BLC[6286]: [info]:Client disconnected. Message: Socket error. Error: Broken pipe, ErrorCode: 32 [Notifier.cpp:233]
Apr 10 00:32:55 (none) BLC[6286]: [info]:Dismissing HTTP Response due to errorState [Http.cpp:349]
Apr 10 00:33:05 (none) BLC[6286]: [info]:Client disconnected. Message: Socket error. Error: Broken pipe, ErrorCode: 32 [Notifier.cpp:233]
Apr 10 00:33:05 (none) BLC[6286]: [info]:Dismissing HTTP Response due to errorState [Http.cpp:349]
Apr 10 00:33:15 (none) BLC[6286]: [info]:Client disconnected. Message: Socket error. Error: Broken pipe, ErrorCode: 32 [Notifier.cpp:233]
Apr 10 00:33:15 (none) BLC[6286]: [info]:Dismissing HTTP Response due to errorState [Http.cpp:349]
Apr 10 00:33:25 (none) BLC[6286]: [info]:Client disconnected. Message: Socket error. Error: Broken pipe, ErrorCode: 32 [Notifier.cpp:233]
Apr 10 00:33:25 (none) BLC[6286]: [info]:Dismissing HTTP Response due to errorState [Http.cpp:349]
Apr 10 00:33:36 (none) BLC[6286]: [info]:Client disconnected. Message: Socket error. Error: Broken pipe, ErrorCode: 32 [Notifier.cpp:233]
Apr 10 00:33:36 (none) BLC[6286]: [info]:Dismissing HTTP Response due to errorState [Http.cpp:349]
Apr 10 00:33:46 (none) BLC[6286]: [info]:Dismissing HTTP Response due to errorState [Http.cpp:349]
Apr 10 00:33:56 (none) BLC[6286]: [info]:Client disconnected. Message: Socket error. Error: Broken pipe, ErrorCode: 32 [Notifier.cpp:233]
Apr 10 00:33:56 (none) BLC[6286]: [info]:Dismissing HTTP Response due to errorState [Http.cpp:349]
Apr 10 00:34:06 (none) BLC[6286]: [info]:Client disconnected. Message: Socket error. Error: Broken pipe, ErrorCode: 32 [Notifier.cpp:233]
Apr 10 00:34:06 (none) BLC[6286]: [info]:Dismissing HTTP Response due to errorState [Http.cpp:349]
Apr 10 00:34:17 (none) BLC[6286]: [info]:Client disconnected. Message: Socket error. Error: Broken pipe, ErrorCode: 32 [Notifier.cpp:233]
Apr 10 00:34:17 (none) BLC[6286]: [info]:Dismissing HTTP Response due to errorState [Http.cpp:349]
Apr 10 00:34:27 (none) BLC[6286]: [info]:Client disconnected. Message: Socket error. Error: Broken pipe, ErrorCode: 32 [Notifier.cpp:233]
Apr 10 00:34:27 (none) BLC[6286]: [info]:Dismissing HTTP Response due to errorState [Http.cpp:349]
Apr 10 00:34:37 (none) BLC[6286]: [info]:Client disconnected. Message: Socket error. Error: Broken pipe, ErrorCode: 32 [Notifier.cpp:233]
Apr 10 00:34:37 (none) BLC[6286]: [info]:Dismissing HTTP Response due to errorState [Http.cpp:349]
Apr 10 00:34:47 (none) BLC[6286]: [info]:Client disconnected. Message: Socket error. Error: Broken pipe, ErrorCode: 32 [Notifier.cpp:233]
Apr 10 00:34:47 (none) BLC[6286]: [info]:Dismissing HTTP Response due to errorState [Http.cpp:349]
Apr 10 00:34:58 (none) BLC[6286]: [info]:Client disconnected. Message: Socket error. Error: Broken pipe, ErrorCode: 32 [Notifier.cpp:233]
Apr 10 00:34:58 (none) BLC[6286]: [info]:Dismissing HTTP Response due to errorState [Http.cpp:349]
Apr 10 00:35:08 (none) BLC[6286]: [info]:Client disconnected. Message: Socket error. Error: Broken pipe, ErrorCode: 32 [Notifier.cpp:233]
Apr 10 00:35:08 (none) BLC[6286]: [info]:Dismissing HTTP Response due to errorState [Http.cpp:349]
Apr 10 00:35:23 (none) BLC[6286]: [info]:Client disconnected. Message: Socket error. Error: Broken pipe, ErrorCode: 32 [Notifier.cpp:233]
Apr 10 00:35:23 (none) BLC[6286]: [info]:Dismissing HTTP Response due to errorState [Http.cpp:349]
Apr 10 00:35:38 (none) BLC[6286]: [info]:Client disconnected. Message: Socket error. Error: Broken pipe, ErrorCode: 32 [Notifier.cpp:233]
Apr 10 00:35:38 (none) BLC[6286]: [info]:Dismissing HTTP Response due to errorState [Http.cpp:349]
Madskp:
In my configuration, Aux-In directly into the BLC NL/ML automatically turns on the PL speakers and sound starts playing from standby. Also, if a CD was already playing on BS3000, the CD stops spinning and the BS3000 goes into stby, or if an AAC file was playing on BS5, it goes into stby.
If my A6 was already joined into the BLC NL/ML soundstream, when sound starts playing on the PL speakers, it also plays on the A6. But if the A6 was on stby, one must manually join it via the B&O app.
On my setup, on the B&O app, under “Change Source” I have the usual Radio, N.Radio, CD, etc. Aux-In directly into the BLC NL/ML is chosen by selecting “LINE IN” from that menu.
As an aside, I have also enabled A.Aux into the BS3000. It also works perfectly, but we do not use it: its use requires one to go into the B&O app > Change Source > A.AUX in order to start playing. It is faster and easier to simply start streaming to the wireless receiver I have installed in front of the Aux-In port into the BLC NL/ML because as soon as the stream is started, the B&O system turns on from stby via line-in sense and sound starts from the PL speakers.
Let me know if any additional questions.
Thank you Carolpa, Stefan, and LukeS for your considered recommendations. Yes, this BS3000 is N.Music compatible. For years my N.MUSIC source was a BeoLink PC2 and the BS3000 played N.Music and N.Radio admirably. Will do some experimenting.
I also appreciate the note that the ethernet connection is not NL! I’ve updated the descriptions. The Airport Express connects to my wireless network and creates two hardwired network connections to the BS5/BM5 and to the BLC NL/ML —in other words the AE does not create a wireless network, it joins one.
Updated description:
Thanks for the question @ebnrob. It made me go and double-check. The BS3000 manual says A.Opt 6 is an option for BS3000. Now, the label on the BS3000 says the SW version is 3.1.
Today I discovered a sad fact: selecting the CD function on the B&O app successfully turns on the CD, which starts playing on the BS3000; however, after about 120 seconds the BS3000 shuts down as well as the BL6000s.
Here’s the network topography:
