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I always thought of of pin 4 logic as “~MUTE”, i.e. the opposite of the state of the mute-relay inside older Beolab speakers. Pin 1 comes on when the zone is active so the speakers power up. Pin 4 comes on when the speaker is to play, and goes off when the Mute button on the remote or the control panel is pressed. This was changed for newer speakers so that only pin 4 is used for control nowadays, so a trigger & a timer inside the speaker control power on/off. If you search the Archive forums for “Powerlink Pin 4” surely you will find more detail as it may relate to the specific speakers you are using.
From the photographs, I prefer the straight-edge aesthetics to NOTO’s design: this looks bulbous by comparison to the almost-seamless integration in the Contour. I had hoped their decision to rotate the lamellas vertical would lead to the “wings” for larger screens being slide-on lamella “tube-ends” fitting against the vertical seams in the aluminum bottom. Alas wings are only the flat panels, and the soundbar bulge stays the same width. The empty slot space between the bottom of the screen and the top of the speaker bar is unavoidable because of the LG IR receiver “tongue” (and various future-proofed compatible TV screens’ similar appendages), but again contrast the Contour (especially black fabric version where the screen’s IR receiver all but disappears). The empty space stands out more with gold anodization and a screen with aluminum trim, i.e. LG 2022 versus ’20&’21. (P.S. Did it bother anybody else that the lamellas are rounded on the bottoms and chamfered on the tops? [Edit: B&O mini-video shows this, but P-P’s video samples are chopped on both top & bottom.])
Neat how the rotating wall bracket adds the extra structure at the bottom of the bar rather than trying to use bolts into the rear of something which itself is supporting quite a bit of extra weight — but needs to be manufactured economically. Contrast BV 10&11 where there had to be plenty of metal inside the edge moldings to accomodate the hinge attachments. (Aww, no 77″ version?!?! Just imagine what that would look/feel like in the room as this slab swings out to knock over your bird cage, sweep the desk, topple nearby floor lamps, create HVAC eddies… just kidding, but no 77″ wall bracket is no surprise.)
Looking forward to the Technical Sound Guide for this one… after the mysterious “four” patent filings get approved, I guess. Let us pray for the firmware, because there’s so much room for slop when doing proprietary up/down mixing, vs. how is it “supposed” to sound with this movie or that, in this or that encoding from which streaming service, etc. etc, etc. ( Cf. Sennheiser Ambeo and the string of Sonos Arc updates, trying to fix complaints versus happy-campers.)
Related to previous comments, the tear sheet says “OR” for the various wing sizes, not “AND”. As regards 8 PowerLink outputs, again the tear sheet is not clear enough: are 8 wireless AND 8 wired external speakers all supported? [Edit: P-P’s video answers: Yes. 16 external speakers allowed.] (Also the decision of what the superfluous internal drivers be doing? Cf. Sonos Five tweeters in horizontal vs. vertical orientation. Technical Sound Guide, here we come!)
H95 in “Nordic Ice” is now 35% off thru 9/12 — USA/CA only, website only, code “FLASHSALE”. Code also temporarily rolls back some gratuitous recent price increases by modest discounts on Beolit (18%), Level in alu/black (20%), and any Stage (10%). (The speaker colors which were also available sold-by amazon.com reflect the same prices today.)
Level has a delay to do equalization DSP (supposedly only in some orientations?). But does this get applied to Line-In? You should probably test this yourself: hook up a turntable or musical instrument to the Level’s Line-In jack to see if it’s noticeable.
I believe the BeoLab 11 has zero delay. But the 11 — and of course the Level — is not in @geoffmartin ‘s list of speaker delays at https://www.tonmeister.ca/wordpress/2017/12/06/bo-tech-beolab-loudspeakers-and-third-party-systems/
B&O TV’s are supposed to correct automatically if you choose the speaker by name from a menu list. But the Core? Via the App? Please let us all know…
The obvious inexpensive change is Beolab 6000s –> Beolab 8000s. When they came out, non-B&O-fans pointed to the BL6000s as the perfect example of foolish form over function, and how physics was king and their own big boxes simply sounded superior (and louder, which is part of what you’re asking for). I hear-ya’ that a 2.1 system is plenty — especially if “you only have 1 chair and no friends.” (I.e. fixed, centered, listening position means no Center channel needed.) But: Listen to the early-ish YouTube Beo Talk podcasts by @Mikipedia, for his take on how much difference surround speakers made.
Talking through my hat because I don’t own one myself, but this sounds like the classic “Option 0” setting where the attached TV is supposed to process the IR remote. Everybody says “just do Sound / 1 / Store on your Beolink 1000 remote, while the power is off.” The manual fragment below confirms & tells how to do it with a Beo4:
I believe it’s perfectly normal for Aux output to be louder than PowerLink because PowerLink level is controlled by the volume control. I was recently reminded of that the hard way, accidentally plugging my Beocenter 9500 Aux out straight into a power amp: Yikes that was loud.
Schönheit: Beovision 10
alles andere: Beoplay V1
(BV10 panels are known to fail sooner or later, not repairable. Any V1 panel will be newer than any BV10. BV10 speakers sound only fair, not great. My BV10 audio even goes silent after an hour, some heat/fan problem. But… the V1 is ugly!)
Lösung: Kaufen Sie einen BV11.
H95 in light pink (OK, “Nordic Ice”) are 25% off thru 8/18 — in USA/CA at least while supplies last, because they are out of stock in UK & EU. (Not as good as their 30% code discount last month, but available to all; maybe they don’t think they need to give up the extra 45 bucks to sell thru the straggler stock.)
In the USA & Canada, Beoplay EQ have a 25% discount, code “BEOPLAYEQ25”, on the company website, thru August 14. [Edit: extended thru 8/18]
Notice to DIY-ers: DIN connectors often have the pin numbers embossed in the plastic. So you can check your work.
Aha, of course: Mary Fahl was the voice of “October Project”! Makes perfect sense now… If you like Renaissance, try the albums “October Project” (1993) and “Falling Farther In” (1995).
P.S. Note the similarly goofy lettering, see “Fumbling” above: “Ocfobef Projecf”. Flanders & Swann said it best: “”Greenfleeves’, that’s a funny name for a fong.”
Renaissance touring in 2014…..with Annie Haslam – and Mary Fahl
Self-indulgent, singing vocal exercises in concert… Also, Mary Fahl (in 2014) sounded like Annie Haslam *used to* 40 years prior — but that duet just showcased the loss. Referencing further above, it’s like any post-2010 Sarah McLachlan concert: a little creaky, a little shrieky. Likewise, it’s uplifting that Joni Mitchell *could* sing (and play guitar!) yesterday at the famous Newport Folk Festival, but *should* she? If one needs a nostalgia fix, or to give accolades for a lifetime of performance, one should purchase an original album, remastered, instead. (Now who’s the grumpy cat? But I’ll go listen to a (decade-old) Mary Fahl recording, as you suggest!-)
Beosound A1 2nd-gen available at verizon.com for USD 150. Black and grey only, while supplies last. That’s a decent price; wish I wanted a Bluetooth speaker:
Notes: (i) amazon.com has not-quite-so-good prices, $205 for black and $181 for grey. (ii) These resellers’ website “discount percentages” are all calculated from $250, i.e. before the most-recent 10% gratuitous price increase, as @Curly alludes to above. (iii) Verizon is just getting rid of A1 from its line-up. [EDIT: [[Those of you who remember the Verizon-custom (fewer drivers) Beosound Stage will notice it’s no longer available.]] back on Verizon’s website again, $999 as usual.] Looks like they are keeping the Explore, Level, and Beolit 20, which remain at (pre-gratuitous-increase) list prices of $199, $1499, & $529 respectively.
[Edit: sale ended August 31. They did keep the product (back at $250) on the website.]
Now thru 8/5/2022 B&O is reprising (see above) their “BESTSELLER20” website item sale 20% off Level or Balance (USA & Canada).
What app version 4.1.0 will attempt versus what the product will actually play are different: an “Action not supported by the selected product” message pops up when I try to play B&O Radio stations, but TuneIn stations play OK (even without logging in), on ASE2 Beosound 1 2nd-gen non-GVA, both old and latest firmware.
Listening to the excellent Sarah McLachlan album from 1993 tumbling towards ecstasy
And I thought only Japanese manga characters were too stylized to read! (<insert smiley here> N.B. Let it be known that I have *great* respect for @MM’s multi-lingual prowess. Although “Tumbling Towards Ecstasy” *is* nicely alliterative, it is also apparently a well-known gay “bareback” feature film.)
Obligatory-on-topic: One of my favorite live performances is watching & listening to Camille Henderson sing incredibly matched backup vocals with Sarah McLachlan in the song “Fear”. Watch the “Mirrorball” concert DVD (or maybe “Fumbling Towards Ecstasy Live”) to check them both out together.
This happened to me once, from connecting the auxiliary device to an Aux Output cable rather than an Aux Input cable. The Beocenter actually amplified the cross-talk from the wrong pins of the DIN socket, if you turned the volume up high enough! This is why I always suggest buying a Tape In/Out RCA-to-DIN cable, because even if you get it wrong, the first thing you try is switching from the red/black RCA pair to the yellow/green RCA pair! (Yes, a genuine B&O cable has little plastic “cuffs” riding the 4 connectors, labeled “IN” and “OUT”. But the colors on the aftermarket cables are pretty obvious and about 10 times cheaper!-)
[Edit: If your laptop worked — if using the same cable — then this isn’t the problem. But I bet you have separate 3.5mm->DIN and RCA->DIN cables, rather than some adapter doing RCA->3.5mm->DIN.]
B&O is discounting the H95 Nordic Ice by 30% on their website. Enter code “BEOPLAYH9530” in cart. Thru 7/31/2022. Supposedly only 1 product purchase, supposedly US/Canada only.
And what is inside? The specification of a BS A1 or more?
Oops, right you are — looks like I mis-titled… Thought it was a Level inside because of the publicity blurb saying “multi-point connectivity”. But the BeoLenciaga battery specs are 18 hours like the A1(2gen), not 16 hours like the Level. Also they left room for a purse inside, despite the exterior looking deep enough to hold the larger drivers. So it is a handbag and not a boombox.
Press kit, thanks to @Millemissen’s eye: https://press.bang-olufsen.com/d/gKpSDxqk8eyT/news#/july-2022/a-collaboration-between-balenciaga-and-bang-olufsen-introducing-a-new-concept-for-listening-the-balenciaga-i-bang-olufsen-speaker-bag-1
B&O “Story”, thanks to @Mr10Percent’s eye: https://www.bang-olufsen.com/en/gb/story/balenciaga
MM
Ahem… First! But I didn’t tread on your later post just to say so…
new product: Balenciaga X Level
Appropos of @Mr10Percent, no haute colors because this time the collaborator was doing black & white! Check out the 51st collection movie at couture.balenciaga.com. Might we actually need a black rubber sport coat & opera gloves, those of us in the pipe&slippers brigade?
