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Isthatthebeotime wrote:

This Means War (2012) Tuck’s Loft BeoVision 7-40/BeoLab 7.4 with BeoLab 5 and BeoLab 4

It’s a Beolab 7.2 ;-p

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Hello,

Have you tried to add the GoTo button on the Beo4? The may allow you to type in the frequency for the station you want.
You may also need to add the Store button to the Beo4 also. Then you can store your presets to a number.

Julian

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Hello,

You probably know this but have you placed the cd correctly?

The BGCD50 prefers the discs upside down unlike many other cd players.

Julian

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Hello,

The effect of wall mounting to improve the sound is in principal very similar to any non-rear-ported speaker enclosure. On a solid wall they’ll sound stronger than on a stud wall or on brackets.

Similar thinking to placing a rear-ported speaker on a nice solid stand.

The writing from B&O on the topic does suggest something magical will happen, but it’s just good sense to use a solid foundation on which to position the speakers.

Get the tweeters at ear level and you’ll achieve a lovely stereo image. Hang them higher and you’ll get a more bass-heavy and floaty effect, depending on the amount of soft furnishings or reflective surfaces in your listening room.

Julian

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Hello there,

To remove the top you need to power the unit and open the lid, leave it in the up or open position. Then power down.
To the left and right corners of the inside of the lid are 2 little plastic tabs. One at a time gently lift each little tab and carefully start to slide the lid up and off.

Then check all screws are removed from the rear and you should be able to lift the rear of the plastic cover and carefully slide it away from you and off.

Take care with all the internal plastics. I’ve changed belts on Beocord 3500 models and found plenty of brittle and breakable plastic pieces inside.

Julian

(Martin from this site has a good paper guide for belt changes on Beocords)

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I am not sure of your membership status…

I have the full Tony Hadley 🙂
I’ll check for those examples of set-ups.

Thank you sir!

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Hello,

Thanks for your reply. That’s good to know I could run the two technologies together. On the whole it would just be me playing my records from the living room in my office during the day. Nobody else is at home during this time so independent volume control wouldn’t be an issue.

I’m curious though, if I activated the Beogram in the lounge from my office via MCL2A would that trigger the Beolink Converter to fire up my Beovision and consequently the speakers in my living room? That would be annoying and was the main reason for my concerns about having MCL2A and an Audio Auxilary Link system connected to the same Beomaster.

For independent volume control, you may wish to consider extending the ML part of your system into the office, and add a Beolink Passive instead.

This sounds very sensible but I wouldn’t know where to start with the set-up: Audio Auxilary Link to Beolink Converter to Masterlink to Beovision – I would have to split the ML cable and branch off to the office – would that confuse everything even more???
The MCL2A option does seem simpler if my concerns above are unwarranted.

Julian

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Hello,

In my experience the panel speakers from this era did sounds great when wall mounted because the drivers could be mounted at the right height for the best stereo image.
I had a set of P45s which lost some of their clarity when stood on the floor.

Regarding the ‘quiet’ sound I would be concerned about seized drivers. My first pair of P45s had this very problem – the woofers wouldn’t move at all. It was like they had set rock hard.
I acquired a second set which had perfectly agile woofers and which sounded nice and clear and as expected.

Could be a similar thing with these.

See if the seller can take the front baffles off and show you the woofers flexing by hand.

Julian

 

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@beohuman The stereo image from your desk must be exhilarating! Absolutely stunning to behold. Although, at the risk of being a little cheeky here, tack those cables to the skirting and paint them in dear fellow 🙂

 

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Guy wrote:

I am not sure if there is a limit to the number of PUC codes that can be uploaded so best to check with the dealer. I have also never had a home visit; my first BV6 was purchased from Darren of Timeless AV and he uploaded my requested codes before sending me the TV.

A wise move – did I read that Timeless AV closed recently?

Guy wrote:

Yes I would stick with SCART – the type 9202 is a BV6-22 so with that screen size SCART will be absolutely fine.

That suits me fine – the BV6 is mounted on the wall bracket so I shan’t be staring intently looking out for as much definition as possible, just want to enjoy the nice colours and contrast and general Bo-ness of it as I cook 🙂

Guy wrote:

I also discovered something similar. I connected my BV10-32 to one of my BV6s with masterlink and co-ax cables, and it was able to distribute the picture even from Freeview HD channels, and from the Apple TV connected to hdmi. I agree that there are many posts that say that the distribution of digital sources is not possible! You could look out for second hand ML cable, but to be honest unless I wanted further functionality (eg CD and radio from a main room to the BV6) I probably wouldn’t bother with such a set up.

1. I would love to be able to have control of my lounge-based Beosystem 3500 from the kitchen – perhaps I’ll keep an eye out for a long length of ML cable and set that up in due course. Now that would require a purchase of some nice BL speakers….(the acquisitions never cease do they?)

Guy wrote:

PS: Top tip: When replying and quoting another User, if you click the ‘Text’ tab above the reply box you can make sure that the quotes are indented and labelled as above – then click ‘Visual’ again to check formatting before pressing ‘Submit’. Keith did post about this but I think many users missed it!

1. I shall try to get this tidier and more acceptable on the eye going forward – I’m about to hit ‘submit’…..let’s see if I’ve got this or if I need more homework.

I’ve caught up with Jono from the old B&O shop in Canterbury – he has agreed to pick up the baton of getting my Beovisions refreshed with new PUC lists. Now runs a company called Sound Integration based in Canterbury. He advised me to prepare a short list of the items I hope to operate via the BVs and ran me through the process and rates. Sounds good – I shall feedback of course. Guy thank you for your help and interest today – it’s much appreciated.

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Good thread idea. Most of my Bo (as my family call it) is old 80s and 90s hifi. I love it. My Beosystem 3500 is so understated, but in the evening when it’s illuminated (especially while playing a tape) it gives me a real warm glow to sit and look at it.
My Dad bought a set when B&O were offering the 3500 BM, BC and BGCD with a Beolink 1000 and a pair of (oh dear) Beovox 3500 when I was about 12 or 13. I resented it to begin with because a) I was of the age where I knew everything and b) I was into 3 head tape decks with bias adjustment and stereo peak hold/vu meters. The simplicity of the Beosystem didn’t sit well with my understanding of what hifi was.
However, I soon grew to love it. It was also because my Dad had to take a deep breath and let me go hands on – up until then we had a Beogram 1500 which I knackered the stylus on when I was little…from then on I wasn’t allowed near that record deck.

I love my Beosystem 2500 too. It’s stunning still! When I saw the opening to No Time To Die sure enough the Overture shows up and a grin dashes across my face!

I’ve had and sold a Beosystem 5500, 5000 and 6500. I regret selling the 6500 the most. It was so elegant – and my first Beosystem with Powerlink. I bought that system with a pair of Beolab Penta mk2 speakers. I think I love them as much as my family!

That generation of B&O was stunning. So elegant, magestic and exciting. And, I’ve said this to many people over the years, but the hifi from B&O built at this time all has the same familiar smell from the rear grills. I could sniff out an 80s or 90s B&O stereo blindfold!

Julian

 

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Dude your home is stunning! Lovely to see such a full-on Beolife being tastefully put together – very cool.

Julian

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Guy wrote:

Hi Julian, You could almost certainly have the PUC table in the BV6 updated. I think (but am not totally sure) that the PUC update process will be similar to the BV7, but it is worth warning off your dealer in case he needs to bring additional cables (or software) when he visits.

^Ok cool, this is positive. I’ll alert the dealer to this before the booking is made.
I am assuming I can ask for ‘the most recent list of PUC codes’ as long as I check the specific codes I need are included? (I’ve never had a B&O home visit before.)

Does the YouView box have a SCART output? If so, that is probably fine for a 26 inch screen. However, if your BV6 has a DVI socket it may be better to use an hdmi to DVI interface in order to get a digital picture.

The Youview box does have a scart output and I think I’ll have to stick with that, both for the reason you highlighted above regarding PUC use but also because my humble BV6 is an old one. It’s a type 9202 running SW2.3.
When I connect a Firestick via a Prozor HDMI 3-in-1-out with audio extractor and HDMI/DVI adapter it pops up a thin blue strip across the screen stating that no DVI input can be found or that the device is incompatible.

Now what is interesting here is that although there are many posts to the contrary, when I first connected my BV7-40mk5 to this little BV6 with a masterlink cable I was able to see and hear picture and sound from the inbuilt terrestrial tuner, the bluray player (yes) and the firestick (connected by HDMI to the BV7).
The picture was not high definition, of course, but the image and accompanying sound was there.
Now if only a 25m long masterlink cable wasn’t so expensive I would be tempted to set up a link system from the living room to the kitchen.

I did find an option within the BV7’s settings which provides the option to turn HDCP off for use with projectors, but at the time of testing this the feature was not activated. I wondered if this may have been the enabler which allowed various digital pictures to be shared with the little BV6 screen.

Thank you once again for your insight – I read through the post recommended in your reply but as a non-Apple TV user I’m limited to what I can connect. PUC seems the way to go.

Julian

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Thank you again Guy, shame the module I have does indeed seem to be too old for Freeview HD action here in the UK. Part of the reason for the engineer call-out was to have the BV updated with the latest PUC codes – the dealer told me there is a code set for my Huawei Freeview box, which is great.

Taking your advice I’ve put a bid on a Humax PVR on a certain well known online auction website.

Would you (or anyone else reading this) think it possible to have my (old) Beovision 6 refreshed with new PUC codes also? This is in my kitchen, it’s a lovely wall mounted unit but of course has to be scart based due to HDCP limitations. But it would be nice if I could hide the Youview box behind that and control it via PUC.

 

Julian

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Thanks Guy,

I’m familiar with the menu you mention, and the analogue TV tuner is indeed switched off. DVB is the only tuner activated (I have the Firestick programmed to the TV button on the Beo4) and is accessed via the DTV button on the Beo4.

Hopefully the engineer will have all the answers. The dealer (Tunbridge Wells, Kent) was wondering if a previous owner had changed the module at some point but not been able to flash the BV with the correct software.
I hope all will be revealed.

A final curiosity – I was wondering if the fact that my DVB module is a mark1 variant might hinder its ability to capture Freeview HD. I read in another post from Beoworld that FreesatHD was once the preferred tuner module.

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Guy wrote:

pepps wrote:

I have the aerial connected to the ‘middle’ socket.

I just had a quick look at the manual and I think that’s the correct one, so your problem must be elsewhere. Do you have another TV that you could connect temporarily to check the rest of the antenna path? Also, do you have the manual so that you can check that you are using the correct tuning method for the digital (rather than analogue) tuner? They are different menus.

I have another tv in the house which is non-B&O and that tunes to and receives HD chanels without issue. My Huawei Youview box also tunes perfectly without issue.

The service menu for the TV Tuner is as follows:

Tuner system B/G on
L on
M off
D/K on
I on

AFC on
Low tun range 45
High tun range 864
Lower band limit 158
Upper band limit 443
VHF-1 constant 1
VHF-2 constant 2
UHF constant 4
Tuner takeover 14
Japan C39-C63 Off
CN sound Off
KR sound Off
Modulator system I
GR ref 4
GR iterat inte 0
GR iterat inte 7

So I’ve no idea what’s what in here, other than the ranges and limits might be preventing HD channels from being picked up?

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Guy wrote:

I updated my BV10-32 from 0.1.8.9 to 0.1.9.9 shortly after I bought it, but didn’t notice any improvements/changes. I vaguely remember seeing a thread somewhere about what the improvements were supposed to be, but can’t find it any more. I have no problem receiving HD programmes via terrestrial. Are you sure that the antenna is connected to the DVB-HD input, rather than the old analogue one?

The aerial is connected to the correct input. Just scanned again and no HD channels returned.

Unusually during tuning the screen shows provision to count up how many tv channels and how many radio channels have been located. This has always remained at zero for my BV throughout the tuning process.

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Hello Guy,

Thanks for coming back to me.
A fair comment about connection – I have the aerial connected to the ‘middle’ socket. (Imagine the 3 aerial sockets in the diagonal line from inside to outside.)

I believe the one furthest in is for the analogue tv tuner, the middle one for terrestrial or cable and the one on the outside for satellite.

Dont tell me I’ve messed that up!! LOL! I’ll go an check.

Julian

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Hi,

Did yu have any luck with your repair? I was wondering, if you were using the BM5500 to test the sound of the components perhaps it’s something to do with the CD input on the BM? Always worthwhile to try different sockets to rule out something unexpected.

Julian

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@Evan Your ‘cubical’ at work looks utterly baffling! A full-on hifi in an office cubical? How can that even be?!?! (Looks for big smiling emoji)

A most stunning office set-up all the same, bravo!

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