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All information in the Atmos stream is decoded. However, the channels and/or objects assigned to “height” locations are downmixed or rendered (depending on whether the information in the mix was in a channel or an object) to a non-height loudspeaker (or loudspeakers).
To be specific…..this is exactly what I tried (badly) to explain. i.e. 5.2.4 to 5.2.0. The word “standard” here is the debateable phrase. Now I am corrected, I shall continue to use my (very) buggy Beosound Theatre wondering endlessly about the downmixing.
BBC are withdrawing free services.
BBC Sounds (radio) is still free and there are no plans to change that! You do not need a TV Licence to listen to BBC radio (FM or DAB) or BBC Sounds (internet). Increasingly you do need to ‘log in’ to listen, but there is no payment involved.
I thought iPlayer (definately) and sound needed a link to your licence? Fair-enough.
Lets dust-off this discussion in a years time and see if it still holds true or not?
Yes. As per my last post. BBC are withdrawing free services. I am reading the same thing on Auralic board, same issue but less contact with Naim board and hear its happening through two to three layers of separation.
BBC want you to have a TV Licence (if in the UK) and subscribe to either iPlayer or BBC Sound.
The BBC are a totally out-of-date organisation and need shutting down, re-inventing and go to full commercial viability rather than rely on blunt extorsion (under pain of penalty or imprisonment if in the UK) of the licence fee.
This is not a B&O fault by any measure.
To add…..
The BV12 is 1661mm x 963mm, the LG 65 G2 is 1441mm x 845mm. I’m sure the G2 could fit inside the facia of a BV12 with a little skill and some handy 3D-printing of spacers if that is the effect you are trying to achieve. Delete the internal speakers to reduce weight etc…
That way you get the BV12 looks with the modern controllable LG screen inside. The other two problems are the BV12 contrast screen will degrade the viewing of the excellent LG panel and the whole assembly will look odd with the BST wings being not as wide as the BV12 panel.
IIRC, the BV12 came with the BSys4?
The Bsys4 should almost be interchangable with the Theatre except for the picture/monitor control.
The problems I see is that :
- The BV12/Bsys4 is a Beo4 controlled system
- The BS Theatre is a BR1 Bluetooth control.
- There is no native APP for the BeoApp in the Screen (and hence control)
- There may be no tuning capability in the BV monitor (disabled/delegated to Bsys4)
- Modern OLED Panel connectivity to DNLA, other equipment, CEC, will be missing
There may be a way to connect both the Bsys4 for monitor and IR control and have the BS Theatre together but I’d bet its very clunky? However, the tech between the two is over 10years apart (and probably 15 years between the panels)?
Looking at the LG G2 (or new G3) 65, why would you connect a BV12 and miss on 50% of the interaction fun when a BSTheatre and LG is arguably the best featured Beovision ever made?
Yes, I have.
I have found the upper tweeter wears out. You can test by carefully muffling off the lower Tweeter with a soft pillow or cushion and play a high frequency sinewave track through 1 channel. This will identify if you are getting equal sound from each.
I found that one upper tweeter had gone – and as a matter of caution (the Tweeters cost relatively little), have the Service engineer replace both. This ensures equal sound and not having to do it again at £200/hr!
The problem is not B&O, it’s the BBC wanting to lock everyone into their (paid) subscription services. A lot of stations are moving away from vTune, TuneIn etc…
I think this is why B&O Radio was rolled out in the BeoApp…..it sorta gets around some of the short term licensing issues but stations are limited and often territorial.
An embedded VPN on your Router (if supported) my give you limited workaround in some cases??
I repair some B&O electronic……..Just hope for an answer from someone who has repaired that kind of error as here are some guys with a lot of knowledge on repaires
Clearly, you have more knowledge than most if you are prepared to go inside a BL5 and make repairs. I don’t think any advice I can give you – or 99.9% of the other Beoworld members would be useful? I wish you good luck in solving the problem.
I have known one of my BL5 to trip-out totally (red LED flashing) when playing very loud, very heavy bass. It is Loudspeaker thermal protection. Fortunately, I did not have the problem if I didnt try to overload it and play normally. This is what the manual says….
The loudspeaker is equipped with a thermal
protection system which prevents the units
from overheating. Should an error occur, the
system automatically switches the loudspeaker
to standby – and the indicator light
flashes red.
To restore the situation:
> Disconnect the loudspeaker from the mains.
> Allow the system time to reset (approx. 3–5
minutes).
> Reconnect the loudspeaker to the mains again.Should the problem persist, contact your Bang &
Olufsen retailer.Regardless, it sounds like you have an internal fault and should get it checked out by an approved B&O service engineer.
so you play music…..
what sort? light orchestral or big heavy boom bass? for 10 minutes?
no LED indication, then the whole speaker cuts out to standby (firm red LED)?
or just goes fully dead with no LED change?
or it continues to play the upper mid, lower treble and upper treble drivers? – just the 15inch sub goes down?
Yes but the BR1 remote only showed a few stations. The update expanded it to 20
Just add your favourite radio stations to “My Stations” in the App. Don’t think it works with the old TuneIn stations
selecting Music button on the BR1 brings up “B&O Radio >” and from there you can thumb all the station names in the My Stations list (up to 20)
IIRC, The BS5 downloads radio stations from B&O itself. I think it uses BeoConnect and your B&O account. You cannot load up your own URLs. Make sure you are logged into your B&O account.
If you are connected to the Network and can “see” inside the BS/BM5 from your PC, the info slider should tell you that you are connected. If not, it may be that there is a bug (reboot) and ensure your are logged into your account. Again, historically, when I had similar messings-about with the BS5 ,a factory reset usually pot things right.
I dont think the power cords are an issue. B&O has always packed cheap power cords and Ive found that they are reliable. As to the powerlink, I guess it depends who made them? Genuine B&O and soundsheavely cables are reliable. If it was the wrong type (I think with ICE-Powered Beolabs…you will get a hum. Not a crackle. However, if something has been strained or compressed – it may leads to problems.
I would not discount that your equipment is old and has worked a long time. A lot of B&O – particularly at that age can be serviced. As I said above…I would be surprised if you did Service the TV…a Capacitor or two may need replacing?
The BL5 will keep its calibration in non-volatile memory.
The last time I read-up on this, the Mk1 BL5 could keep only 10 calibrations and needed a Dealer re-set to clear the 10 memory allocations and to be able to re-calibrate. i.e. dont do resets unless you are changing the sonic signature of your listening room. Whether this limitation was address by the MK2…..or whatever version, I am not sure?
Just an add on.
Does anyone in Beoworld know if the BS5/BM5 used vTuner as it’s web radio module?
if so, v.Tuner has been down for a couple of days now (Auralic board has raised a concern). This may be why the radio has stopped?
Unfortunately I don’t. It’s a long time since I played with one. They are problematic machines because of the way Windows SE is the core program with a B&O wrapper over the top.
As I’ve stated, if you get into maintenance mode and get into Windows (you will need a usb mouse and keyboard), you will see network settings combining in ot not from your home network.
Part of the factory reboot is to help reset those connections in terms of the B&O wrapper and accredited B&O account.
it’s something I have muscle memory on……..but it is very difficult to guide you through to success via a web forum.
Long time since I was tinkering with a BS5. If you can ascertain the BM5 is connected to the network that would be good.
Next, try rebooting
Next, try service menu with a mouse and keyboard and tinker around the network settings in windows SE.
Next, try a factory reset.
Ultimately, it may just be that B&O have killed that server and because the BS5 can’t get authorisation……..it simply clears the radio list.
Testing the connections on the BL6000 is not easy but the MX6000 is straight-forward. (Lay the 6000s flat and fiddle around with the connection. Maybe taking the foot off will help?
Also play swapsies with the cable and channel selection. 1 cable. MX PL1, BL6000 PL1, switch pos 1 and 2, repeat for PL2 on the same speaker etc….. Go methodically through all the combinations of MX-PL connect, cables, channels, L/R speaker….if it persists throughout – likely its the MX. Maybe you get lucky and its a broken Powerlink cable?
With the age of that equipment there may be a possibility that there is an internal component near failure? A Cap perhaps? Once you have done logical swapsies and no clearer on the answer, its better to take it into a repairer who is familiar with servicing older B&O to see if they can lock down the fault?
