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1. Try a long press of the calibration button to reset.
2. When I had BL5s, they could only accommodate 10 calibrations before they locked up and needed a Service Engineer to clear the memory. I don’t know if this was Mk1, only or mk2?I think the synconising cable is just 2-ended 3.5mm mono jacks end to end. However, I would talk to your local dealer to get the specs.
This is to ensure both speakers raise/lower volume together as there is no powerlink between them or a B&O A or V master controlling. Again, I’d get the specifics from your local dealer
Hi,
You will need a 3.5mm jack-cable to synchronise the two BL5s together and a Beo4 Remote.
A Beo4 Remote will need to configure (Loudspeaker mode – L.Setup) the IR of the BL5 to accept commands (Vol Up/down and standby).
Depending on your Streamer, you can feed Coax dig out/in directly. If your Stream has its own DAC, it will need to be via the RCA connect. Note input voltage should not exceed 2 VRMS – otherwise it will distort and you will need a good quality attentuator.
….. respectively a set of BL 18 with addition of the Almando device (like Mr10% adviced)……. …….you would almost be at the costs of the BS Theatre.
MM, Not sure if I am misunderstanding you here?
I was not suggesting any additional loudspeaker – Balance or BL18s.
It appears to me that the OP has a potential problem with the BV7-40 (which could become a brick at any time). If the Stage does not permit loudspeaker connection and the Theatre is too expensive, the Almando may be the only viable way to keep existing loudspeakers? It may be possible – I dont know how good/bad/indifferent the Almando is, but if it works, the OP can upgrade to Beolabs at any point – either new or legacy?
A LG Panel, with Almando and current Beolabs is by far the most cost-effective solution I would surmise – but with potential integration issues you would not have with the Theatre etc…
Have a look at threads and the website for the Almando Sound processors.
These boxes convert TV HDMI output to 5.1 and connect to an RJ45/Beolab trigger compatible output.
This may help you Bridge the gap between Stage and Theatre?
The Theatre – with RoomSense listens to the pre-calibrated output of the BL5 in terms of distance, timing and tonal response. The DSP in the Theatre then applies an adjustment to its own output to “optimise” the combined effort.
I.e. Pre-calibration of the BL5 (it’s own calibration pair) when given a flat impulse at a given frequency……..sounds like your BL5 in your listening position. A set of internal reference values in the Theatre then says……”can add/subtract a bit more lower frequency boost” to stay within agreed frequency envelope.
That’s my slant on it.
I think it can only be done with either a Dealer plug-in or using a Transmitter1
Another thing to consider.
The LG panel needs registering via the LG app. I/my installer had difficulty feeding that through. It was done however remotely via my Dealer 100miles away. The Theatre registration (via the BeoApp) was straightforward without issue.
When I purchased my Theatre….it was an LG G2 65inch. Said so on the box (no attempt to hide branding etc….).
Be careful on the colour choice. If you are going for a coloured Theatre, the banding on the G2 at least is natural Aluminium. i.e. Anthracite Theatre and a default Silver banding on the LG Screen (G2 at least). I think you can specify black banding on an LG panel as a special(???) but not the other colour.
Just to add a bit more accuracy, (but assuming Im not 100% spot-on…a BV-style Theatre is going to be:-
Then add-on the Stand of choice (motorised or table) and if you want wooden frets……
The screen cost is by difference and assumes a LG C2/G2 model.
There are rumours that B&O will be increasing the cost of the Theatre by 20% in August!! – so if your buying…better place your order ASAP
Depends on your mounting options.
If you want a Theatre on a shelf and a wall-mounted separate LG panel, then you order the Standalone theatre and separately a Panel. I dont think the theatre comes with a BR1 but it does have its (cheap) wall bracket.
You will need to add money for the wings. I think the 55in is included(in the price??) but the 65 and 77 wings are going to be £800-1000 extra for a set. (you dont keep the 55in wings)
If you wish to mount the Panel and Theatre to be a Beovision, add another £1000-1200 for the SMI (Screen-mount interface). Then add £2800-2900 for the motorised Stand or Wall mount or £400-500 for the static Table stand.
There should be no reason why you cannot buy everything you want from the Dealer, less the panel. Tell’em you already have one.
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The Theatre has the sound profiles for the BL8000 in its memory. You may have to change the Powerlink cable (RJ45 out, PL DIN in).
You can configure the Theatre to distribute the sound as you want via “listening positions” and modify the timbre of the sound via Sound modes settings. I would say you could upmic 2.0 to 5.1 but I wont say how good or authentic it would sound.
There is a cable you can buy from B&O or SoundsHeavenly to connect a Beogram via the USB-C input. I do not know if this works without a separate or internal RIAA PreAmp?
You can configure the Bass to the limit of your system or add a Sub. You can configure the crossover. (Default is 120hz).
The music output of the BL28s will be very good. much better than the BL8000 which are a few generations earlier in design. like everything, have a listen before forming an opinion. It may be a sound you like, love or hate? You may still prefer the sound of your BL8000’s?
Ultimately, if you are interested in the Theatre/BL28’s, I would amble down to your local Dealer for a proper Demo.
The price raise was going to be 25% but B&O reduced it to 20% but excluded all power cords 🙂
UK Dealers will be so happy with that.
All the VHNWI’s who thought B&O were cheap and beneath them will be kicking down Dealer doors like it was a limited edition Balenciagia handbag to place their orders.
I don’t know the Core that well. However, I thought you could select local sources in the configure menu. If you can, you should be able to flick BT music off?
Also, a factory reset and re-install but without Chromcast activated may help?
I suspect either your neighbours are playing you by casting to the Core, or they once inadvertently connected and every now @nd again, mistakenly cast to your core without knowing it?
Re their target market now, I’d point everyone to all their recent investor updates of the last 1-2 years.
They are targeting Ultra High Net Worth Individuals…..This is not my interpretation, this is what they have said. A production process more like Ferrari they mentioned last call i.e order, and long lead time.
….and if the stuff is up there like Ferrari performance then ok, but if they are following the Aston business model (old tech, massive depreciation) or McLaren business model (breaks down, warranty issues etc..) then it ain’t going to last long will it?
I am wondering what they mean by this. Are they saying we saved 100 turntables from the trash heap and we sell them to the rich?
What is B&O going for here? Are they looking to become a high-end home decor brand? Are they hoping to sell these to Hollywood to be used as a set piece in an appartment for a McDonalds employee?
I’m sure the profit on these are incredible. If they sell 100 of these at £55,000, it probably has a much better bottom line than selling 6111 Beosound A5’s. But what does this do for the mortal BeoWorlder?
I sadly believe as per my last post…..that is exactly what they are doing. The point is that it is not just for the rich………I would feel comfortable that if I really wanted I could cobble together the cash for one of these…but would I want to?
The real issue is that in my opinion B&O have done some serious work in overcoming the “all style and no substance” mantra with the BL90, 50 and Theatre. They have also done this at the more affordable end with the Beosounds. I.e the average Joe on Beoworld and quite a few others have rebuilt the brand and it’s credibility. B&O are now destroying this by releasing this product at the price and in arguably a vulgar colour scheme. You could literally buy a very blingy world-class deck, cartridge and phono-amp, plus the BL28s and still have £20k in change to spend at HVM on vinyl.
The person who buys this I believe won’t give two flying figs as to what it is…or it’s history but it’s just another trophy in a pretty apartment with views. Those aspiring to buy their first Beosound or replace one…read this and in my opinion give up right away. Very bad for future sales IMHO.
I am lucky that I found a Beogram 8002 on eBay that was refurbished by someone who knows what they are doing. Its been working fine. This is my second 8002 purchase, the first was nothing but problems, even after multiple visits to the B&O repair shop. While it’s not as elegant as the 4002 (series) is does have that nice double-sided tape elegance!
Playing vinyl is an occasional pleasure for me.
Me too did exactly the same with my 8002. Sound quality is ok-ish (for the age) but it’s an enjoyable experience if that is your thing?
I can get the refurbishment of an old Beogram – particularly a factory refurb. But to put it bluntly, in my opinion, B&O are moving in many ways back to oblivion. The BG is in world-terms a mediocre sound deck, as is the cartridge…as is the BL28 loudspeakers, the Core is well below mediocre in terms of SQ as well. A nice custom maple/oak/walnut or whatever can be hand crafted for a fraction of the part-price. The anodising of the alu-parts is in this colour-combo is bordering on vulgar. I get the package of the parts but it screams “no more ideas, rehash the past”.
I think there is something very wrong with a brand – particularly luxury brands when they keep re-hashing merchandise (Ferrari caps, tee-shirts, Aston Martin umbrellas, Omega Speedmasters etc..) to get that super-premium of basically selling tatt and the well-off soak it up.
Company’s then get lazy and make this stuff all the time – driven by Marketing rather than rather than true innovation. Then they die.
Sorry to be negative on this but I’d rather see B&O (or their chosen contractors) advertise for a pay as you go/at cost Deck refurbishment programme (and why stop there – plenty of good loudspeakers and BeoMasters out there with the ability to undertake reproduction components) and have current owners re-generate a second life for these products….rather than what seems the current practice of hoovering up all old decks from eBay and causing massive asset inflation to be ginned-up for a tasteless NY/LA Man-pad that will never really get any use or be enjoyed and savoured.
My opinion (with 2 pairs of heights) in a 5.0.4 configuration is that the Theatre is infinitely adjustable in terms of atmospheric sound distribution. I use the RoomSense to get me 90% ball-park of what I need.
I convert the BSTheatre speakers to front only, with the side and up firing off.
I push the fronts slightly backward in terms of distance, but pull the sound level higher for clearer vocals.The BL90s require a slight distance adjustment either side and the BL3 Surrounds left alone. The heights are manually boosted a fraction of a db each on the rear heights, a bit more on the front heights. I tend to lave the sound modes alone after getting hopelessly lost in the Miriam of settings. Writing down default distances and sound levels and their modified settings is useful.
This gets me to my desired preference and how far away it is from yours and the degree of tinkering/tuning is entirely personal. I don’t see the need to move away from TrueImage – though direct May have been useful while B&O were fixing the BSTH bugs.
As indicated, a good 4KBR disc – or like me enjoying completely uncompressed audio makes a huge difference over Netflix or Amazon (which although it says Dolby Atmos, is still no bigger than DD+) in terms of spacial atmosphere.
On my Kaleidescape system, I have a freebie short movie by Trinnov – perhaps the leader in home theatre amplification and distribution. It’s a musical track of beating and twanging noises coming from what seems a collection of hotch-pitch electrical components (I can’t find a link on their site). But it gives a very good 3D spacial observation of the sound and to a degree, helps me tune the heights to a degree where there is clear separation but not stupidly unrealistic separation.
In summary, find a good Atmos source, tweak to your hearts desire and how other people do it or take as preference I think is relatively meaningless to your own setup.
