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C’mon Guys, I’m screaming this since forever: prices here in France are ridiculous!
You’ve seen a Beogram 4000 for 580£, really? I can show you 4002s at more than 1000 € with a little note “the tip shall be replaced cheap and easy to find”. I even saw one once sold for 800€ with the main plate (the one where the platter sits and not the ones on the right) painted in turquoise blue!
Anything that holds the B&O logo is sold for money only, Beolink converter @100, Beocom @600, Any Beogram is above 200€, LC2 @100, Playmakers no less than 80-120, etc…
Only common Beolabs seems to follow the market prices even if 3500, 2000 are mistakenly sold as standalone speakers at stupid prices.
And don’t even dare to call the seller to tell the item is not fairly priced!
Sometimes you can find good prices, bargains, even gifts to give away. Yes it happens and most of the time from owners who have enjoyed their things but don’t anymore. But too often people don’t even know what they’re selling, they just know that “B&O is an expensive brand”.
Sad…
Hi Tuttivini,
They are stunning! I’m close to ashamed of the rendering of mine now!
The hardwood gives really a different look and is definitely an improvement.
As are the rounded slats. All in all these “details” make them closer to the Beolab 18 and less “its-just-a-wood-grill-on-90’s-speakers”. Congratulation and thank you for pushing the idea further away.I didn’t realize before, but now I recognize you: I remember when you first posted your living room in the old forum “flash your B&O”. I really liked the fireplace and the whole setup in general, simple, clean, wires concealed. It’s an honor to be from very far away, a little bit part of it.
For all the other members, could you specify if these are 4 or 5 mm wood bars?
Thank you.
From google pictures there is at least the dark wood version with black top and bottom plate and the coarse beige fabric version with white top and bottom plate and a oak wood handle.
Hi alls, me again,
Thanks to member ebnrob, I was able to activate the iTunes remote app to remotely control iTunes from any iPad or iPhone.
So I can now confirm that the setup works in distribution mode (DM) with full control from an iPhone (a 3Gs to keep up with the youngtimer mood!) or an iPad (1).
A.MEM is configured as “iTunes (external)”.
Browsing, selecting tracks or albums is made through the iTunes remote app (IRA) interface.
Beolab volume control is through the Beo4 but you can adjust the iTunes volume on IRA.Beo4 STANBY key do standby the system and stop iTunes playback.
When calling any source from Beo4 to wake it up, it will play the track that the system was playing when you stopped it: radio or song.Selecting RADIO while playing an album track do switch to radio mode and play the radio streams set in iTunes.
Selecting A.MEM while playing a radio track do switch to album mode and play the last album played.
The Beoremote also start and stop de iTunes.
Of course album browsing is not possible from the beoremote (only possible if A.MEM is mapped MUSIC, that is when LM plays the tracks directly, but then you browse in the blind with no direct access to a specific album).
But track browsing within the same album is possible with the Beoremote and reflected in IRA.
Still a pity track names are not displayed on the Beolab 3500.
No, thank you to you ebnrob,
I’ve just tried to enable iTunes remote again and it did work.
I’m sorry I can give the accurate procedure because I did it just like that, without making screen caps. But it’s an obvious path if you’re not distracted by the feeling Apple gives you it’s not supported anymore. Look in the corners, launch the iTunes remote app on your phone and add a new library from there. It will work, period!
Now I need to dig out my Beoport and the 3500 to see how it works all together.
Any useful find will be reported in the Mac/Beoport thread.Ebnrob, thanks again!
Thank you ebnrob. I’ll try this and will report.
Ive set the mac to auto-login at boot, just need to figure out a way to load itunes at login next.
Go to General Preference>User and groups and select your main account. Then in the “opening” tab add iTunes. (Names may differ a little sine I use a French OS but you should find your way.
Annoyingly though the mac is forgetting the time after being powered off.
Thats an usual behavior on a laptop when the battery is dead but I never experienced it on a desktop machine. Nevertheless the battery is a CR2032 and can be replaced. But opening those minis is a pain.
https://fr.ifixit.com/Tutoriel/Mac+mini+Model+A1283+PRAM+Battery+Replacement/1068?lang=en
The screen capture and measurement from styppen are right.
It’s the “bounding box” size of the whole object.
For whatever reason my export do not carry scale information and you have to scale it depending on your printer device. But it should usually be a round factor: x10, x100, x1000.
Anyway, give your supplier the bounding box size and it should work.
The Mac is running Itunes 10.6 with BM-Link […]. I also installed the itunes remote app on my iphone 13 and that worked too for controlling iTunes! I was not expecting that.
Thats interesting because last time I tried, home sharing support was not supported anymore in Snow Leopard for security reasons. That was then the missing experiment in may research on BL3500, Mac-mini and iTunes integration.
So could you please elaborate on your setup, settings and software version.
Side note: funny how people dig out more and more old hardware to play with it !
Sans m’avancer, oui ça vient de là !
Voyez du coté d’Audiofriends.
Hi, It’s not the same board (that one is from a Century) but in this thread you can clearly see the components Ramabo talks about. It should help you to find them.
Bonsoir,
Avez vous ôté les grilles pour verifier l’état des suspensions des haut-parleurs ?
le joint en gomme se détériore avec le temps et fini par disparaitre complètement.
Les HP grésillent puis finissent par ne plus fonctionner correctement.C’est une panne connue et courante et il existe de nombreux kits pour une trentaine d’euros sur le net. Ce n’est pas une operation compliqué mais il faut faire preuve de patience et de minutie, c’est un travail un peu salissant et stressant aussi.
Il existe de nombreux pas a pas très largement illustré partout sur la toile.
Bon courage.
As far as I know…
Essence MK1 is today, more or less, no more than a Playmaker without IR, that is an Airport Express with additional auto sense line-in along. I can’t comment on DAC as I’ve not experiment any audio improvement myself.
Essence MK2 will be more like a Beosound Core ancestor, that is a box with it’s own sources like tune-in and NL.
There is a lot of literature on BW2 about pushing Essence MK1 to its limits but I doubt it would be a reliable solution in time. And the price tag between MK1 and MK2 is still important.
Being an Airplay user, I would buy an Essence MK1 only as a Playmaker alternative and only if cost is similar to a deprecated Airport Express box, that is around 40-50 €/$/£.
In your case, either a Playmaker, a MK1 or even an Apple AE would suit your needs, given that as I do you can’t sense the difference in DAC if there is any.
At first they were meant to be a cradle to hold the sticks with a drop of glue.
But in the end the sticks did click in and stay firmly in place without glue.
The groove is not deep to stay invisible between the lamellas.
I know. Just saying that “at glance” it’s an obvious difference, as much as the leds from the 8002 are.
I dont know Beverly Sills Bellini and Donizetti Heroines but I would start with a record of no value, You don’t know what could happen and before checking the sound you want to be sure the mechanics works correctly.
I think that early models have a “cup” woofer and later a “dome” woofer. I believe the “dome” woofer is more bassy. Where is the split? I don’t know.
Maybe you should start by the start: Put a record on your table and see what happen.
If the platter spins and the arm lowers where it should, you’re not that bad.
Then check for sound and if it sounds, check for speed consistency.
From there you’ll be able to gauge how much service you deck needs.
Maybe it can make you happy with just a new belt and a new cartridge.
I’ve two of them and both just needed no more than a little care. Eventually they will need more to spin for 20 years more but for now they work well.
In all case, your deck will be in good hands on Beolover workbench.
To my knowledge there is no actual “Update” in components. I mean is your purpose is to use your deck as you used it when new, the changes are more “service” than “upgrade”: replacement of ageing components, belts, pulley I think and the plinth (of no use for you as yours looks good) and the lid. All this can be done by yourself if you’re a little handy and with the help of this forum and other internet help that is plenty.
B&O also change the wires and add an RIAA preamp. It does not add streaming capabilty by itself, it just provide a line level output that allows the deck to be connected to line-in/aux-in of beosound devices like Balance or Core that will then allow distribution via Network Link.
In a nutshell, all mechanics and electronics are more or less easily serviceable. To me, not really worth the amount B&O ask for (but it is the price of tranquility for B&O client that can afford it).
What remains is and always will be, the cartridge. The starting point.
It’s not about the brackets, it’s about the lamellas. They are rounded and must be L shaped at the top. I think they’re also very thin (not deep). All this to say that this solution involves a lot of woodwork and is certainly not 50€. But indeed the result has nothing to compare with my cheap solution.
Il n’y a pas de réponse simple : taille, prix, disponibilité sur le marché de l’occasion, gouts personnels…
J’espérais beaucoup les 8000 qui sont “censées” etre bien meilleures que les 6000 et pourtant j’ai été tres déçu et suis toujours resté un peu sur ma faim. J’ai par contre été très agreablement surpris par le Beolab 3500, physiqement proche des 6000 et qui pourtant n’est qu’un simple HP “link” donc secondaire… Et puis il y aussi les 4000, fabuleuses, toutes petites, classiques B&O…
Donc un son de qualité “optimale” ? Optimal par rapport à quoi ? Essayez les 6000, ajustez le son, écoutez… Entre temps épluchez les catalogues entre 2000 et 2020 et comparez aux prix de l’occasion, fouillez aussi le forum, très riche d’enseignements de toute sorte.
Vous n’avez pas fini d’y perdre le bras !
