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Even better would be a device I can stream over AirPlay. Any?
I recommend looking for a second hand Airport Express, the later A1392 version with Airplay 2.
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there is no AUX-button on its control stick and neither my Beo4 remote control has anything called AUX. The remote has ATAPE and AV, no idea if that can help.
You should be able to add A.AUX to the LIST button on your Beo4 (if it is not already there).
To add it, on the Beo4:
– Press Power (Red Dot) and LIST together, the display should read ADD?
– Press GO.
– Press LIST until the display shows A.AUX. then GO.
– A.AUX should then be listed under LIST.But be aware that the SW version of your BL2000 may not allow it to respond to the A.AUX command (mine doesn’t). I think it needs minimum SW1.5 – this may be noted on the label on the rear.
However, you may be able to access the BS9000 aux input by pressing A.TAPE or A.MEM (and the same on the BL2000).
(The AV button on your remote is for another purpose, not AUX selection.)
I came around to try this test, but the Beocord keept playing even though i tried various lengths of long presses.
Forgot to ask, did you connect the BeoCord’s datalink to the AAL pin 6, rather than the usual Beocord pin 7?
I came around to try this test, but the Beocord keept playing even though i tried various lengths of long presses. Might be the difference between AAL an AL.
That makes perfect sense. It also explains …
- … why my modified DVD1 turned off after a long press. DVD1 had full control when connected to AUX/TV socket of BC9500, because the BC9500’s AUX/TV socket must have AAL at Pin 6. Given that I used a modified SCART lead, the data within SCART must be AAL rather than Datalink.
- … why my OneRemote has to be programmed to a strange number (starting with 4XX) when connected to either BL1611 or a TV’s SCART socket. This makes it use AAL rather than Datalink.
A setup with BC9500 in the main room and connected by MCL to LCS9000 in link room has no complications, as follows: (I presume that a relay box is just a connection box?)
Note that the above states Option 2 rather than L.OPT 6. I did try L.OPT 2 on my BL3500 when I was trying to trigger with 5V.
I am not sure if it’s relevant, but if I run the PCG with a BC2300 and BL1611 in the main room and LCS9000 in the link room (connected by ML) then I get the following:
Perhaps the shorting (or otherwise) of ML pins 4 and 12 in early model BL3500s is relevant to our investigations?
Or maybe the BL3500 manual is not showing all the connectors on the W1
I am fairly sure that I have a broken Wireless 1 in one of my boxes, but can’t find it unfortunately – which is a shame because I could have looked inside!
Out of curiosity: Did you try the combination +5V on pin 6 (datalink) and -5V on pin 7 (datalink shield)? I have had some thought about this and cam to the conclusion that the rest of the pins are either not conencted or used for the sound part. Furthermore one of the olde manuals regarding datalink signals mentions high signals in the voltage range 2.1 to 5.5V. But again it is just a thought.
Great minds think alike! I came to the same conclusion about pin 6 and did try 5v to that with pin 7 as ground (not -5V). I was actually using 4.5V (3 x 1.5v cells). Mine is SW2.0 whereas Matador’s picture from the one that worked says SW1.1 – perhaps that’s the problem?
Just a quick note about triggering the BL3500 with 5V. I did tentatively try 5V to various pins whilst I had a 7-pin cable attached to the MCL socket (ML was disconnected). I tried all voltage injections variations that have been mentioned with ML turned both on and off. BL3500 did not turn on. Given that we now have BL1611 working well, I give up!
However, whilst searching for something else, I just noticed a Peter Pan diagram showing BL3500 attached to Wireless 1 by Powerlink. The thread is here: https://www.hifi4all.dk/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=20679&PN=1&TPN=149
I found the following Note interesting:
The combination Wierless 1, version no. 1780 and BeoLab 3500 version no. 1601 must not be connected to a separate IR-Sensor, here the IR sensor that is built into BeoLab 3500 works.
Installation of a separate IR-Sensor therefore only applies to the first version of Wireless 1.So (if the note is correct!) then with the later version of Wireless 1 (1780), there would have been no ‘trigger’ because the BL3500 was turned on with its own IR sensor. The trigger only came from the early version of Wireless 1, which perhaps required a corresponding early software version in BL3500.
It’s a pity that the Product Configuration Guide doesn’t include Wireless 1, because it often points out minimum SW levels for various combinations.
Are you sure that’s a BV11, and not a later model such as Eclipse or BV14? I thought that all BV11s had the Mini-AV input.
If that 3.5mm socket is indeed a LINE IN and OPTICAL, then you should be able to use Steve’s cable that you linked to on 16 Jan. This will connect between the BC2300’s PL output and that LINE IN socket.
You will probably have to set up the LINE-IN socket in the TV’s connections menu. You will also probably have dual volume control (i.e both the TV and BC2300 will be able to adjust the volume). You will need to experiment with levels, starting at a medium volume setting for both.
Guy wrote: The other bit of the bracket came with it thanks.
Like we said here, you seems to have your bottom in a plate of noodles…
So the lovely lady that I bought the Beolabs from explained that they belonged to her father. He was an avid B&O fan for many years, but has just had to move into a Care Home due to advancing age. He kept hold of his Ouverture and (Original) Avant – apparently it took three people to carry it into the nursing home! That will be me one day!
ok these 2 informations combined indicate that you have a MK1 with the MCL connector. Good to know
Oh yes. And I thought I had a Mk2!
Yours is 1602. Mine(s) is(are) 1601.
Only difference is that 1602 comes with a UK power lead and three pin plug. EDIT: and yours is 230V, mine 240v.
(BTW, do you have the wall part of your wall bracket (because I’m working on a replacement trick if you’re interested.)
The other bit of the bracket came with it thanks. It will need some large screws and a solid wall if I do ever mount it!
OK now looking in the back of the BL3500 – photos first to give you serial number:
And this one partially shows a useful sticker (on the left) that allows you to check the speaker setup in the service menu – will do that later!
one thing to look for without opening it could be to measure if pin 2 in the MCL/PL connector is connected to other ground pins or not
OK so no continuity between 2 and 7, or 2 and anything else!
Measuring approx 400 kOhms between 5 and 7, and 3 and 7 so let’s assume 7 is ground , and pin 2 is not connected.
One should think this was supported as the official drawing from B&O shows the dual input, and a Beoport should be able to coexist with another audio master in the same installation. But of course if that drawing is before the Beoport was made things could have changed.
That’s what I thought! However, perhaps the BL1611 needs to ‘recognise’ a connected product (older TV or BeoCenter) via the AAL socket (pin 6) so that it knows what sources are available.
I ran the setup through the PCG as if connected to a BL1611 and BC2300 in the main room, Beoport and BL3500 in two link rooms: This told me to put BL3500 and Beoport in Opt 6. The was no conflict or lockup with this, but I just couldn’t select (eg) TV or RADIO like I could when Beoport isn’t present. When I tried, the BL3500 just turned quickly on and off (as if looking for a source and not finding it).
OK cancel all that from my last two posts!!!
I just re-programmed (both Opt 6) and re-connected. This time I was much stricter about Option settings, then powering off, reconnecting ML and then powering back on, with the BL1611 last.
Now it works! From either the PC or the BL3500 I can select either of the BL1611’s dual inputs as before. Only downside with this setup is that the Beoport is now only a local source, and cannot be accessed from the BL3500. Selecting (eg) N.RADIO on the BL3500 just opens the BL1611’s audio input.
Anyway, that’ll teach me to be more careful with re-programming and re-connecting!
One should think this was supported as the official drawing from B&O shows the dual input, and a Beoport should be able to coexist with another audio master in the same installation. But of course if that drawing is before the Beoport was made things could have changed.
That’s what I thought! However, perhaps the BL1611 needs to ‘recognise’ a connected product (older TV or BeoCenter) via the AAL socket (pin 6) so that it knows what sources are available.
I ran the setup through the PCG as if connected to a BL1611 and BC2300 in the main room, Beoport and BL3500 in two link rooms: This told me to put BL3500 and Beoport in Opt 6. The was no conflict or lockup with this, but I just couldn’t select (eg) TV or RADIO like I could when Beoport isn’t present. When I tried, the BL3500 just turned quickly on and off (as if looking for a source and not finding it).
********* EDIT: Ignore above, Options 6 and 6 work – see below! **********
I haven’t yet tried connecting the dual-input BL1611 to the same ML system as the Beoport and BL3500, there may well be audio-master conflicts if I don’t get the Options right.
I tried this and couldn’t find any way of selecting either of the BL1611’s dual-inputs when the Beoport is also connected to ML. I tried various combinations of Beoport Option (0, 2, 4, 6) and BL3500 L.Option (0, 1, 2, 4, 5, 6) but had several conflicts as far as I am aware. At one point Beoport even locked up (the PC screen controls disappeared) and I had to do a complete re-install of the SW!
********* EDIT: Ignore above, Options 6 and 6 work – see below! **********
It was not a totally wasted exercise because I did notice that BL3500 can also be set to L.OPT 1 and 2 which are not in the manual. I may look into this further in the future.
Lunch now and then I’ll look at those BL3500 input pins.
Hi Guy, I have open a new thread on this and if you know howw to do this, it could be good to move your post over there (I dont know how to).
I just want to try one more Beoport thing on this thread (because it relates to the dual-input BL1611 and BL3500): I haven’t yet tried connecting the dual-input BL1611 to the same ML system as the Beoport and BL3500, there may well be audio-master conflicts if I don’t get the Options right.
So I’ll check that and report here, and then put any future Beoport thoughts in your new thread if I think that they will be useful for the stand-alone mac project.
I am looking forward to this thread!
(I’d also much prefer for you to buy a Beoport than for me to buy a mac! ?)
With regard to ‘selecting specific albums’ – I think Beoport does at least enable you to access playlists. Next time I have it up and running I will check how easy this is to do from the Beo4.
I just had a quick look at how easy it is to access Beoport/BeoPlayer N.MUSIC Playlists from a Link Room. Tested with BL3500 (L.OPT 6) connected by ML to Beoport (OPT 2).
Basically if you have four N.MUSIC playlists (Green, Yellow, Red, Blue) then it is easy to move between them. As long as the Beoport and PC are up and running, simply select N.MUSIC from the link room BL3500, and then on the Beo4 press (for example) RED 5 to move to track 5 of the Red Playlist. You can then use the arrows to move to the next track etc.
Any more than 4 playlists and you would be operating blind!
In a similar manner, you can group N.RADIO stations into playlists and move between them using Beo4 colour buttons in the Link Room. Note that Beoport with Win 10 PC is still exhibiting a strange characteristic where it ‘mutes’ the BeoNet Radio audio output when you change stations! This is a little annoying.
There is one other difference when using N.RADIO from a link room: When I change radio stations a female voice says ‘connecting’ – this doesn’t happen when changing stations from the PC screen or the Beoport’s IR remote!
I am now trying a few other things on the Beoport and will then do those BL3500 MCL socket pin measurements.
EDIT: One other ‘funny’. If I put a CD (remember them?) in the PC and then select CD from the BL3500, it will play and can be controlled, but the display just shows ‘CD-128’ – there is no indication of track number. This was observed by someone in the old forum, but when using Wireless 1 – I think it is SW related.
This might work with the Aux as well – however I am not 100% sure that the Aux port on the 2300 is output as well as input (this can be easily tested…….with the right cable).
The BC2300 AUX is also an output, but it is different pins to the PL output, hence requires a different cable.
