Carolpa
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Thank you guys! I knew you’d be able to help – I had hoped for it to come
Now I have something to study – I guess I’ll have to play with the BLI, before I really understand it. It is a pity that one has to buy an expensive device/the BLI just because you want to (read: have to) exchange your old bulbs and you still want to use the one and only Beoremote. But I also see the reasons why this so! Life was so easy with the old Light Controls (I have had mine for 20 + years) 
MMBLI is an expensive solution, but the LC weren’t cheap either.
And as you describe they are more than 20+ years old, so not surprising that there would be a moment you come to this point. The positive: the BLI is more versatile than simple LC’s
Note: maybe you could opt for a second hand Beolink Gateway. It can handle Hue lights also.
With a BLI, the Halo becomes even more useful in the living room. You can control the lights, thermostat, etc. I can even push a button to make the Roomba vacuum start cleaning.
All true. The problem is I can do all that by voice with a $30 Google home, every iOS device around me, my applewatch, my logitech remote or my $60 hue tap wireless switch (looks like a plastic eclipse).
All true…..
but isn’t that true for all B&o stuff…….. you can always find cheaper alternatives/solutions, some with additional features, but……..
it isn’t B&o!
and by the way, I despise conversations which starts with “hey……”
Thanks. This still keeps the screen on and displays a blackscreen? I thought there would be a way not to turn on the screen, but connect directly with the audio module?
The screen is muted, not just displaying a black screen.
see the difference yourself when it switches off.Where do I find a guide for setting up the BLI with smart bulbs for use with the Beoremote One/BT? The BROne/BT is prepared for this, so why no guide? Of course I did search, but all I find is how to use the app. https://khimo.github.io/bli-guides/bli-quick-setup-guide.html How do I get rid of the (in my case) unused ‘Control entries’ there – and how to edit the ‘Light entries’ to suit my own use case? If no guide excists, I would be thankfull for any hints on how to, if one just want light controlling with the Beoremote One/BT and the BLI device. MM
does this help?
https://khimo.github.io/bli-guides/ideas/howto-OneRemote-BLI
Thanks very much everyone. Just to re-confrim what’s BLC?
Beolink converter NL/ML
I have a BV Horizon. I have a few questions how to stream audio to it:
- I can use “join” in the B&O APP to play audiostreams. However, this turns on the TV. I’d prefer that it only plays audio with the screeen staying off. Is this possible?
- I am wondering whether I can define a speaker group that I can play to when hitting “join” rather than the BV Horizon speakers.
Thanks for any help!
Join,
Wait a minute and the screen will mute (a principle going back to times using the remote command AV <source> on ML tv’s)
Only way I see, is to have an Essence MK2 or a Core connected to the line-in of the A8. MM
or BLC
Any thoughts on my issue above?
Hi,
you did set Google to 2 step authentication, right?
you confirmed, this is working with a Google account?
did you log out on the BV40 and log in again? did your phone then ask for the verification?some questions:
1. the setup was completed fully after choosing Chromecast ON?2. did you try it with Chromecast off?
3. you only tried to Chromecast?
4. do you have a TuneIn account; if so, log in on the Core and try to play a radio station on TuneIn with the B&0 app? Otherwise make an account (it’s for free) and log in on the Core and start TuneIn as a source of the Core in the B&o app.
5. so the speakers played for several minutes? Every time again?
Well I installed the new firmware and the battery life of the table model seems significantly worse again:( Also I just encountered the dreaded boot-loop bug again, that was fixed a couple op updates back and not seen since then, it’s back!
I can confirm that the boot-loop is back. Waiting on B&O support to confirm and give me a fix.
2 Halo’s ; both automatically updated some two weeks ago. One shows no issues what-so-ever. The other had the boot-loop. But after a factory reset it just works as before.
Both Halo-batteries hold for approximate a week, as before the update.
Thank you for your response, Carolpa. I wouldn’t even had thought about the security screws. Could you tell me where they are located?
the “A”s
Adding a turntable via the Aux input, now that would make it really great, what a good idea! Kind regards, Steve.
like this?
Steve do you sell a cable PL to Aux-in (DIN-DIN or RJ45-DIN) to use the BS1 as “speaker”.
As it’s been many years since I mounted my Beovision 4-42 on its fixed wall bracket, I can’t remember how to remove it. From diagrams that I’ve found, it looks like there are four protrusions on the back of the Beovision that fit into the wall bracket? Would it be correct that you just lift the Beovision up a little and then back it away from the wall?
One can lift the BV4 off. But did you place the securty screws during installation?
Remove them first.
Hi, Im putting out a request to see if anyone has either the Eclipse assembly instructions somewhere or links to YT training videos? This is the screen/soundbar pairing – not the stand pairing. Thank you 10
Presumably you’ll find it in here:
Thanks, Carolpa, for the explanation. Let’s put it this way. If in the above system, I send a signal to Beogram, for example, commanding, “start playing the record”. This signal will be an NL signal that will be sent to NL/ML converter.
This is data signal sent to the right BLC, because on NL level it is know where the source is connected.
There it is converted to ML signal and from there to BLC, where it is finally translated to Dattalink commanding “play”.
ML data-address defines to which device it should send the command to
The Beomaster receives this Datalink command and sends either the same command to the Beogram or does something with that command, so the Beogram understands it.
The Beomaster translate the command to playing the Beogram.
So, if I understand you correctly, the signals are different, so Beomaster does something to the original signal.
Sorry but I do not understand what you mean with this remark. The BM simply follow the instruction given and starts the source. The same for the other devices. They, the commands, open a path for the source, Beogram, to be played in the linked system.
note:
- you have the audio signals
- you have the data signals for controlling the system
However, It would be great to understand what it does to the signal. It would, for example, be great if the difference could be learnt so that NL-could, after some coding, send a proper signal that could communicate with the Beogram without necessary translation by the Beomaster, simply send signals that are ready to use to ht Beogram. This could make the Beomaster redundant, which has no function in modern B&O networks other than translating signals for the Beogram. The same could hold for Beocord or Beogram CD (if someone would like to use those sources).
That would be a BLC with the additional logic of an integrated Beomaster (discussed before on the previous forum).
Many thanks, Guy for your explanations and valuable advice. I will add the Delay-box to my list of stuff to acquire. Also, thank you for the link to Iconic-AV. I will contact them for the RIAA preamp. However, I still can’t stop thinking about the necessity of a Beomaster in the system. Please correct me if I’m wrong, but I believe that Beomaster was needed to receive the IR commands and convert them to DATA-link so that the Beogram can be controlled remotely (since it doesn’t have its own IR receiver). In a system based on NL, however, necessary commands can be sent by Halo to the Beomaster (and through it to Beogram), enabling control of the Beogram. This signal is received from Halo -> NL -> NL/ML converter, which converts the signal to ML signals, and then the ML singles are converted again to DL signals (though BL Converter 1611) and sent from there to the Beogram (through the Beomaster). Since it seems like the Beomaster is necessary, it would be great to understand what Beomaster does to the signal (if any) before it is sent to the Beogram. However, If there is no change to the signal, it should be possible to eliminate the Beomaster.
1) you could connect the Beogram to the BLC (line-in), but you only can select the source line-in. You cannot control the Beogram (none at all, with or without RIAA preamp).
2) so there we have the difference, you need “brains” to control the Beogram! And these brains are provided by the Beomaster (nothing else will do).Many thanks, Guy and Carolpa for your responses, which are highly appreciated. I will give solution 2 a try as I don’t own a Beomaster yet. If I’m reading your response correctly, the second solution allows for the connection of a Beogram, directly to the ML-network (using a BL-converter), without needing a Beomaster 6500 or 7000. It would still be good to understnad the difference in link signal between the signal from Beogrma to BL-converter to ML in one hand and Beogram to Beomaster to BL-converter to ML Will the signals be different?
You interpret my reply incorrectly. The Beomaster is needed.
you can’t use solution 1 or 2 without the first part of my post.
Beogram control over masterlink has been raised several times in the archived forum. Unfortunately I don’t think anyone got it to work as required! This thread is worth a read if you use Google translate: https://archivedforum2.beoworld.co.uk/forums/p/11690/102249.aspx#102249 You may be able to use a workaround to get sound distributed, but full control does not seem to be possible.
It is possible, but not to my knowledge on the proposed way: for example,
Beosystem 7000 (Beomaster 7000 option 0) datalink connected to a Beolink converter T1611, which is ML connected to a Beolink converter NL/ML (BLC; set as ASlave).
Set the Beosystem 7000 sources “available” on the NL side.
Solution 1:
use of Beolink Intelligence: ALL the Beosystem 7000 sources are available (as part of the BLC sources) and programable to all NL & Beocontrol Link products.
Solution 2: No Beolink Intelligence.
If a NL device like a Core, A6, BS35, M3, M5,…. is available in the system set-up the BLC as “linked to other Products” as primary Beolink-product (note: you have to check the boxes of the BLC sources in the “local sources list” also).
In both cases the Halo and the apps Beoliving or/and B&o app can be used. There are/were some weird workarounds: for example, one started the Beogram 7000 as source of a Core: when expanding to multiroom, one first had to switch to BLC in the B&o app before expanding the experience (note: lately the way of using a BLC in the B&o app has improved though) .
Hi, I attached a picture showing the configuration page of my M5 through my browser. It shows that the product is up to date while it does not. I attached the picture again in the link below.
I would do a factory-reset.
Connect the M5 (preferably wired) to your network and wait some time for a sw update to pop-up.
do you know the (current) IP address of your M5? Or do you know how to find/get it?
if “yes”, open a browser of a PC/Mac/Tablet and type this IP address in as URL (note: device must be in the same network as the M5).
the configuration page of your M5 should start. then update the M5 to the latest software
