[Carolpa]

Your right, same behaviour on my BLGW

[Carolpa]

Tim wrote:

….. The thing that won‘t work is the BeoSound Level and Emerge. Is the Motart Plattform not working with BeoLink?

?? not to my knowledge. I still have a BLGW aside my BLI and it (the first) does show/find all my Mozart devices (BL8, BL28, BS Theatre).

I can‘t see any source in the BeoLink Gateway from those devices and they don‘t show up in the BeoLiving App.

Did you press the “Capture” button op the Resources page? You are sure all are connected on the same network?

[Carolpa]

patcherley wrote:

I have a BLC connected to a Beomaster 7000. I can use the B&O app to use the Core to select and play a Beomaster source but if I use the BLC in the App it sits there for a few moments and the drops back to no source. The BLC is set to VMaster. What am I doing wrong.

Nothing….
but change the option of the Beomaster 7000 to 1 or 2 and try again.

[Carolpa]

BeoMedia wrote:

Thanks, MM. from what I recall (I actually disconnected my NL/ML Converter as I didn’t think it added much anymore when I replaced my BV11 with a Theatre setup) I could also start a source and then “join” from the Theatre. Can’t remember if it was sufficient to start from the ML stereo or I had to start the stereo from the NL/ML Converter. Will try later today. I have also responded to B&O support to ask them to clarify what adding a Core would achieve. Upon reading their response again it is rather unclear and vague. Will report back here if I learn something. The Theatre is a great product but it would have been even better if it could integrate with previous products better. If ASE products could do that I can’t help but wonder if the Mozart platform was a step backwards but perhaps it has other advantages I am not aware about.

Set you Beolink NL/ML converter (BLC) as VMaster.
Then go to the B&o app and select the BLC.
Select the black bar (with the BLC noted)
In the next screen select the ML source to be played. This source should now start.
Join the BS Theatre

This way no additional ASE product necessary

add: if in the screen (visible above in the 4th line) the multiroom options are not available, close this screen and in the black bar on the main menu tap the multiroom icon. The Theatre will be available to add.

[Carolpa]

Second thought >

if the Beolink NL|ML Converter (BLC) is setup correctly and you give the set IR command to start the B&o radio to the BV7 then the radio should play on the tv.

so could you post the BLC settings.

[Carolpa]

Tim wrote:

Hi all, I saw a BeoLink Gateway for sale the other day and thought it might be a great idea to automate some things in our home so I bought this device without digging deeper into details. As I am normally a typical who does not like manuals and starts things I noticed after one minute that this device will be different so I downloaded the manual and started to read. And what should I say it is Beverly complicated to understand the logic behind this device. This is why I have hope some of you guys and women can help me setting up my Gateway. This is the setup I have

So I created the equivalent Areas and Zones in the Gateway and assigned the B&O stuff to the global Area. My problems:

1. When I open the BeoLiving App only the LIVING ROOM appears in the Main menu. All other other rooms are invisible.

Place your different B&0 in the correct Tones and Areas

1. When I want to start B&O Radio on the Core ion the LIVING ROOM the TV is quiet and does nothing. In the B&O app and from the BeoRemote it works. TV is setup as Video Master and Core as Audio Master (connected via BeoLink NL/ML)

With a Macro you can start the BV7 to play B&o Radio when you choose B&o Radio on the Core. (let me know for assistance)

How can I configure the separate Light Switches in the Gateway? The switches can be connected via the REST API

create a virtual button (Resources) and make a macro to switch on and off light

1. how can I create scenes for Home Conema, Party, Sunday Brunch and Breakfast?

if available in a Beoliving driver then it is the same principle

1. How can I add PIcture to the rooms?

No. this is Beoliving feature and to my knowledge

I think these are my questions for the moment ? I hope somebody can help.

[Carolpa]

Yossi wrote:

everyone seems to agree that the b&o app is mediocre , rather inquiring for a premium brand… it is high time for b&o to recruit interface designers and developers at the heights. the bullshit has lasted long enough

Just a general thought, with an open mind for discussion and opinions : are you sure you’re not the screaming minority?

who by definition is right! ( they think)

note: keep on screaming, because that will create new insights, leading to improvements ?

[Carolpa]

MichaelVoo wrote:

Thank you all for the replies! For now I download an app called “All black” which give me an…… all black screen when playing Apple Music on the AppleTV.

The screen of my LG G2 can be switched off without an app. It is a feature of the TV, so I would expect the G1 has the same feature (somewhere far in the LG settings). See MM post.

@Carolpa, If you use your Oppo BR player with audio only, I guess it would still turn on the tv right? although you might get a blank screen, tv is turned on….thats my point. It would help if we could mark the HDMI input as Audio only in the Theatre settings to avoid this.

Actually the Oppo has two possibilities
1. use the HDMI-audio out of the Oppo (but then you have no pictures what so ever. This seems odd to me with a Bluray player)
2. switch off the screen as a feature of the Oppo (PUC connected to Theatre)

And as described before I can switch off the screen as a LG G2 feature.

 

[Carolpa]

Tignum wrote:

Hello Razlaw, I would say option 1? The only ‘no speakers connected’ setting is 0, but that is disabling IR remote control. Apart from Option 1, all settings are meant for a MasterLink setup in my view. “The music system has five different Option settings: Option 0. Used when your music system is connected to your video system and no speakers are connected directly to your music system. Option 1. Used when your music system is set up on its own or connected to a video system, when speakers are connected to your music system. Option 2. Used when your music system is set up in one room and connected to a video system set up in another room. Option 5. Used when your music system is set up in a link room which also comprises a Bang & Olufsen television. Option 6. Used when your music system is set up in a link room without a Bang & Olufsen television.” Regards, Johan PS – why not ML connect it to a BLC and enjoy control from other devices?

In my opinion with the proposed use of the BS5, only if the option 0 is chosen will make a difference in a day to day use (of course under the condition there are no other ML device in the same room and/or ML and NL devices listening to IR commands)

[Carolpa]

MichaelVoo wrote:

I’m using an LG 77G1 panel and Beoremote One to control. I understand there are many Devices delivering Audio and Video via HDMI but nowadays there are also more and more delivering just audio. In the B&O app > Theatre > Settings > Sources section I can only find HDMI under “TV” and not under “Music” categorie (not 100% on the translation as I use the app in Dutch language). I guess that limits HDMI to only work with a TV (turns on the TV).

An Apple TV shows moving pictures even with Apple Music! That is were it is made for! (So why shouldn’t you find it under Video?)
If you do not want pictures send, shouldn’t it not be a feature of the Apple TV to reproduce audio only? For example: that’s how my Oppo BR player can be used.

A way around is: switch the TV screen off after starting Apple Music (note: which I use now and then on my LG G2). See MM post.

addition: You can find the Apple Music app on your LG also (at least it is supported on a G2 screen)

[Carolpa]

Millemissen wrote:

A lot of NL/ML Converter users have this question. I haven’t heard of any explanation yet. MM

volume of BLC connected speakers and if the BLC has been joined it controls the volume as well.

[Carolpa]

Millemissen wrote:

You indeed can daisy chain from the fronts to the speakers in the back. But then these would also act as fronts…..which probably is, what has happened in your case (?).

to add to this remark: if both front speakers are daisy chained (so left and right front speakers have been assigned) and then daisy chain the rear speakers, the back speakers can only act as front speakers, as described by MM.
But, for example, the right back speaker can be daisy chained to the right front speaker and be assigned in the Eclipse correctly.

The rule: to one PL connection in the Eclipse one can connect AND assign two speakers. Every next daisy chained speaker will then act as one of these two assigned speakers.

 

[Carolpa]

Tignum wrote:

Hi, I am assuming that then the BR1 will show the (in the app selected) NL sources (with the names given in the BLC settings) under the MUSIC button.

That’s an interesting assumption.
For sure this principle works for a BR Halo. But than the communication is completely different. I do not know how a BT remote communication works in comparison to a normal IR. Does it compares to IR or does it compares to the Halo type?

To your other question on the IR based communication in the diagram – the expectation is that ‘CD’ will start the Bs9000 and ‘[Link symbol]CD’ will start the BC2.

I did a simple test: I placed the BLC IR option to 4 and the BS3000 in option 2. Connected a IR eye to the BLC. Then I gave a LINK CD command. The BS3000 did not start to play the cd.

It is a pity that the Core does not have the settings page to link IR commands to NL sources as the BLC has! Maybe something for the development team? Regards, Johan

[Carolpa]

Tignum wrote:

Hi, It is not installed yet – for now it exists only in the above chart :-). We will have to wait a little before testing this. I do actually hope the Bluetooth connection between BR1 BT and Core is so strong that the above is not necessary. (Will investigate ‘bridging/meshing’ Bluetooth in the meantime). B&O support actually hinted that what we want to achieve is complicated, and a B&O installer should be consulted. We will have to be a bit patient I guess. Thanks for thinking with us! Regards, Johan

Hi Johan,

I was hypothetical speaking: “now the…”.
Just out of curiosity, why do you think you won’t have the same issues if a BR1bt is used?

regards

[Carolpa]

Tignum wrote:

Hi all, after a dialogue with B&O support on the meaning of the sources ‘CD’ and ‘[Link symbol]CD’, we came to this outcome: where the trick lies in Option 5 setting of the BC2. The proof will be in the pudding I guess. For now it seems that this enables:

• Using a Core for PowerLink and S/PDIF signal paths
• Tucking the Core far away by using an IR eye
• Using two ‘CD’ commands for two CD sources under the MUSIC button of the BR1 in ‘BeoSound’ mode

Regards, Johan With ‘Link symbol’ I mean this:

Hi

Now the system is installed and programmed as proposed and the CD command is given in the BL5 room.
Which CD-player starts? How does the system differentiate which CD-player should start?
Where in the Core, where in one of the two BLC’s does “option 5” decide to select the BS9000 or the BeoCenter 2?

Rethought my earlier response:

Now the system is installed and programmed as proposed and the CD command is given in the BL5 room. It will start the BS9000. But can you start the BeoCenter 2 because it is a local source in the ML of the other room and cannot be distributed? At least that was the case when everything was ML. Now the Beocenter 2 is ML connected to NL so the source will be available on NL.

But still you need a command to start the BeoCenter 2 in the BS9000 room. So you still have the same “problem”.

Note you can JOIN the Core if the BC2 is already playing

[Carolpa]

But to me, within ~1 second seems to be impossible to address 3 BLC’s!

[Carolpa]

BLC to connect a Beogram 4002 to the system (recently installed)

my other BLC’s

See the differences! It look like there has been an update to the BLC’s.

@Johan do you have the 2023 version or a previous one?

[Carolpa]

Hi Johan

could you post or PM me some settings of your Core/BLC? Everything I try/change ends with the same outcome…… only one connected device is visible!

thx in advance

Paul

[Carolpa]

2.remarks:

strange your sources of both connected devices are available. Despite all kind of setting changes this is feature was/seems to be lost in my system. This asks for a new evaluation of all settings.

as described before, if both connected devices are present in these pages, it should be possible to use a remote to start both CD players (just play with different IR settings in the BLC’s)

[Carolpa]

Tignum wrote:

Hi Carolpa, was hoping for you posts! The planned set-up is not for me, but for a very friendly gentleman building a new house, that I am helping a bit to get all cabling (and user experience) right. The Core for that home is not yet purchased. (Here is an image of my own Core, that still seems to have the primary/secondary split still:

 

Okay, my Shape Core is programmed: primary connected – BS9000 BLC, the secondary -BC2 BLC.

As can be seen above the BS9000 sources can be chosen to be set as Shape sources, but the Beocenter 2 sources are missing in this list and therefor not available (they also do not show op in the B&o app/Halo). If the BC2 CD is not a source of the Shape Core, how to start this source with a BR1?

If you start the same setting page as mine above, do you get all the sources? The sources from your Beosound 5 AND the sources of the Beosystem 6500 can be ticket and set as Core sources?

Software is 2.4.55189.229090071,

Same over here

let me now what other settings you would need. Again, this is my (older) Core, that I do not control with a BR1, but use (only) to feed B&O radio and DLNA Music to two ML networks. The other Core will be bought later.) I think it will not be the end of the world if it is not possible to play from 2 different CD players. I expect the BC2 to be used way less often than the BS9000.

I can start the BC2 CD with the B&o app by chose the Beocenter 2 BLC, go to the BLC sources and chose CD. The CD starts. Then JOIN the Shape Core (for example).
Note: this method works in general with BLC and the B&o app. Only a T1611 connected Beosystem 7000 does not respond momentarily.

Priority is that the Core is away in quite remote utility room to bring all technical cable clutter out of the living space. But if there is way, why not!

Using the app makes it possible to start both CD players and you can hide the Core anywhere.

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