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The following is a true story, more or less.
Much later, after several plastic bags of different size and ply, after a rude skirt of aluminum foil (aluminum foil is used in construction as an IR radiant barrier), after multiple blankets draped…
I crawled on my back under the stand-mounted 9000 and unplugged the mains power and PL cable. Standing, I wrestled the 9000 off the stand, then kneeling on the floor, gently placed the unit face down on a blanket on the floor. I then crawled over to reattach the power and PL cables. I then wrapped the unit again in another blanket, making sure to cover the bottom of the unit, leaving only the smallest aperture for the cables. Standing, I grabbed the Beo4 for the last time, pressed ‘Radio’ and…nothing happened. “Yes!” I exulted. “Take that!”
Which was when my wife entered the room. “What are you doing?”
I began to explain: multiple B&O units in the same room, IR reception, Options, garbage bags, diapers of aluminum foil — it was at this point when I began laughing.
Taking a cue from my wife’s eloquent eye-roll, I gently returned the 9000 to its stand, unplugged the BC 9500, set Option 1 on the 9000, and enjoyed some music.
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Many thanks! to Beobuddy, BeoChecker,Tignum & trackbeo for ingenious suggestions and sleuthing on this little BeoAdventure.
For those who might be researching a similar issue, I found trackbeo’s discovery of multiple IR receivers in the bottom of the unit mapped with my masking experience. Attempting to mask that area off was for me, not feasible. Lots of reflected IR bouncing around. And there are esthetic issues. So: case closed.
Excellent guess! But don’t wait for some expert answer, just try it! (:-) (…and report back here to aid future searchers, of course…:-)
? I was looking for independent verification of the location, as my attempts at masking have failed so far: one layer of black electrical tape; two layers of tape; a sandwich of tape-cotton-tape; aluminum foil and tape; a sandwich of tape-foil-tape.
Note that the suspected area ‘wraps around’ a 90-degree angle to the bottom of the unit; I’ve masked both areas in my attempts, to no avail. However, I’m stubborn and I’m also enjoying the learning process. I promise to report back if I solve this.
you probably already found out that there are 3 IR receiver chips on the “PCB 14” board, so there could be 2 additional secret receiving spots. But probably not, likely just improving coverage there at the tip of a board hidden inside the case.
Yes, there’s a tangle of ‘IR’ references in the service manual. The relevant PCB seems to be located at the bottom end of the (vertically-oriented) unit, lending further evidence that the IR eye is located here. As to multiple IR receiver chips, I assume that they are related to the sled safety feature as described on the Beoworld product page: “Small prismatic lenses are placed at each end of the aluminium frame, controlling an infrared beam across the front of BeoSound 9000. If the beam is violated, the CD clamper will stop immediately.”
Woah! Love the idea, Johan. I assume that a little electric tape (maybe some cotton underneath) would do the trick.
The IR sensor. I’m looking at the chassis (in vertical orientation). There are six buttons, one for each CD well. Below that is a button to place the unit in standby. Below that is a small square — is that the IR eye?
Option4 is exactly for the situation that two devices in the same room react to the Beo4. The device in Option 4 reacts only if LINK is preselected on the Beo4 first. It depends on the version or software if BS9000 support Option 4/5/6
Thank you for the suggestion. Despite repeated attempts with my Beo4, the BS9000 remains innocent of Option 4. As you write, the software version of my particular unit must predate the option. Unfortunate. ?
Why do you want to switch it to option 0?
I have a Beocenter 9500 in the same room. The 9500’s manual control panel (touch glass) is only functioning intermittently because of age, BUT the BC functions perfectly under remote control. Hence, I want Option 1 for the BC 9500, and therefore Option 0 for the BS 9000.
That it doesn’t respond to Beo4? Then you can use option 4
My version of the reference manual has no mention of Option 4…? What does it do?
The software for the BS9000 has been designed that way
Thanks for the clear explanation, BeoBuddy. “Performs as designed” isn’t the answer I expected (!), and it doesn’t make me happy, but good to know that I shouldn’t spend any more time on the issue. Thanks again for the speedy reply.
I have 2.1.51942 for my Core/Shape. To be fair, I was a member of the beta test team for a time; nevertheless, I believe this is the current release version.
Carolpa wrote:recommendation: -. pre install Line IN (even if not directly needed) -. pre install Powerlink cable (even if not directly needed) during in-wall installation of cables.
Yep, great suggestion. I used one of Steve’s cables to connect my BC 9500 to the Shape.
Hi Steve: You’ll love your Shape.
Before getting to specific answers to your questions, strong recommendation to follow Matador’s advice: play with the Configuration tool at B&O’s site, then use the B&O A/R Experience app to see what a given config looks like in your environment.
Q1. Number of tiles: audio quality and cost play here, along with esthetics. Ranked by cost, tiles can be dampers, speakers, or amps. (One tile is always a Core — it’s required.). If you exceed 4 speaker tiles, regardless of the number of total tiles, you’ll need a second amp to drive the additional speaker pair. (Speakers always come in even-numbered pairs.). Exceed 8 speakers, you’ll need a 3rd amp, etc. More speakers > more amps > more cost > but theoretically better sound.
Q2. Colors: IF you have a white wall, and IF there’s pretty good natural light in the room, I wouldn’t be afraid of dark colors. IIRC, the A/R app will show the tile colors you’ve selected in the Configurator. Play around.
Q3. Kvadrat : My Shape is 8-10 feet from my listening area. I have a mix of Kvadrat and non; I can’t see the texture difference. I also have 2 Skiniplay covers. These work great and give you flexibility to choose different color schemes after purchasing the Shape.
BTW: Matador said: “To me it’s one of the good old fashioned B&O magic things like in the past.” Exactly right, imo.
Matador also said: “Print fake tiles on A3 paper, stick them on the wall, let them for a couple of days and see.” Yep, I did this too after I’d settled on my config. Helped enormously in getting the height-on-wall correct, as well as finding the precise center placement.
Look for an upgrade to the Core software. The latest should give you B&O Radio.
Yes, iirc, Steve was the manufacturer of the BG4000c cables. You should contact him.
OK – I guess B&O & KEF don’t mix here….?
“Now the music divides
Us into tribes
You choose your side and I’ll choose my mine”
~ Arcade FireIn the current line-up, a pair of Mozart-enabled Balance could be a very nice surround.
Beam forming.
San Francisco store is open for business. Nice store, directly connected to a BoConepts furniture store as well. Several BS Theatre systems on display, as well as Shape, Horizon, Balance, headphones, etc…
I purchased a cherry Beocenter 2, had it serviced and am ready to set it up.!
May I ask where you had it serviced? Would love to acquire a BC 2 someday.
There may be some geography-based licensing restriction that preclude Radio in your area. Dunno.
same from my listening experiences too – spent a fair bit of time flicking between 2 speaker groups : (A) Theatre with rear 28s (the triangle), and (B) Theatre, rear 28s, and front 18s (triangle plus front l/r)…..and while there is little doubt that the triangle on its own (A) is really really good, and will be plenty immersive for many modest living rooms, when it changed to (B) with the added front l/r’s, I did prefer the wider soundstage.
Helpful, Sandy, thanks. Where do you get the most bang for the buck – with the 28s in the rear and the 18s up front (as you are now configured)? Or conversely, with the 28s in front & 18s in rear?
Adding the front 18s to the triangle was not a binary, black / white, night and day difference though, and hence I can see why B&O are suggesting the triangle (with 28s rears) as a more than enough immersive setup for many.
But for those a bit soundstage width sensitive (I’m in that camp), adding fronts does make an appreciable width improvement.
Thanks for this. Understanding that there are degrees of goodness, not simply great/awful dichotomies, helps with the monetary side of the buying decision. That said, I’m a wide soundstage guy myself.
