New product launch – beosound theatre?

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  • #13125
    Razlaw
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      Connected a BL19 to my Theatre today, along with 28s and 1s. Question….does the Phase setting on the 19 matter with the Theatre?

      #13127
      etype76
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        I have now got better sound from the line-in Beogram connection with the Theatre. I switched the gain to 50db and the volume is much more in step with other sources.

        With the Theatre, I wouldn’t need a power amp, right? At the moment I have the Beogram hooked to the preamp and the preamp output to the Theatre via the line-in.

        Thx

        #13128
        Sandyb
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          no power amp required

          #13135
          beojeff
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            Does anyone know if we need to add to the distance of Receiver 1 speakers to adjust for the slight time lag? I’m thinking that since we’re doing this in the manual settings that the adjustment might not be automatic. We always had to add distance for WISA speakers in the Beosystem 4 settings.

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            NQVHNWI
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              Is there nothing in…….

              Listening Position >> Select >> Edit Position >> select speaker. Adjust distance, level etc…

              #13147
              beojeff
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                Currently, Receiver 1 speakers cannot be added by Room Sense. They have to be added manually. Therefore, I’m curious if we need to add extra distance to the actual distance for wireless delay compensation. Has anyone heard an answer to this?

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                NQVHNWI
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                  So how does Theatre know there is something connected? My assumption was some speaker role was added (even if manual addition and even if it is seen as Receiver 1 but may have any speaker connected to it).

                  Obviously, I’m unable to simulate this. Assumed something in “edit positions”

                  #13151
                  beojeff
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                    So how does Theatre know there is something connected? My assumption was some speaker role was added (even if manual addition and even if it is seen as Receiver 1 but may have any speaker connected to it). Obviously, I’m unable to simulate this. Assumed something in “edit positions”

                    The manual addition in listening positions is far from ideal — but it’s the best we have for right now to add a Receiver 1 until B&O sorts this out to have the proper calculations done in Room Sense. The Beosystem 4, that did not have internal WISA support and relied on a Transmitter 1, would have us add 3.5 meters to the actual speaker distance to compensate for the delay. However, from reading the Beovision Technical Sound Guide it sounds like Beovisions that supported WISA already adjusted for the sound delay.

                    #13153
                    splud
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                      How do you manually add a speaker connected to the Receiver 1?

                      Thanks

                      #13156
                      BeoMedia
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                        I noticed that in the sound settings you can adjust the line in sensitivity. I haven’t played around with this but mine is set to medium from factory.

                        Your post suggests you have adjusted your BeoGram but perhaps an alternative solution could be to adjust the input sensitivity or in any event for other users with analogue line input issues.

                        #13157
                        BeoMedia
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                          I have a basic question related to Room Sense as I haven’t found any user manual.

                          When performing Room Sense with the microphone connected etc, what settings should the speakers be set to: Free, Wall or Corner?

                          And for BeoLab 2 which further has settings for connected speakers 1, 2 or 3?

                          I’d be grateful if someone has had advice from B&O about this and could share it

                           

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                          NQVHNWI
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                            As far as I can collect from all the information sources, Switchable Beolabs should be set to “Free”. The Theatre will judge to bass-boost response caused by walls and corners etc…against the reference

                            The speaker Presets: I believe relate to the BL90/50/28 with switchable beam control. 0 to 8.

                            0= Auto, 1 = Narrow, 2 = Wide, 3 = Omni, 4 – 8 Future?

                            With no “Official” information so far from B&O, all this is my current belief.

                            #13160
                            Millemissen
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                              You should set all speakers (with such a setting option) to free.
                              This is how they were measured in Struer, before adding the values to the BS Theatre for the Room Sense process.

                              A BL2 (or any sub) should be connected with its own PL (with no daisychaining to other BL’s).….otherweise the BS Theatre will not know which values to use, when Room Sensing.

                              According to the BL2 manual, it should be set to 3, since it is connected seperately to the system:

                              If you have a Dolby Digital system, and
                              therefore no speakers are directly connected to
                              BeoLab 2, we recommend that you set the
                              SETUP switch to 3
                              ”.

                              MM

                              #13161
                              beojeff
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                                How do you manually add a speaker connected to the Receiver 1? Thanks

                                You cannot include the Receiver 1 in the speaker group when performing Room Sense or Room Sense will completely fail. After you create the listening position with Room Sense without the Receiver 1, you select the listening position, touch the three dots in the upper right corner, and then select Advanced settings. This will allow you to then select the Receiver 1 to include in the speaker group. However, you must manually input all values for the speaker — it isn’t automatically calculated by Room Sense. This feature was added in the latest version of the B&O app.

                                #13164
                                BeoMedia
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                                  Thanks guys. Makes sense regarding setting to Free which is also what I did yesterday but nice to confirm it. Well spotted for the BL2, I had missed that in the manual.

                                  #13165
                                  BeoMedia
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                                    As I am switching from BeoVision 11 I would like to create speaker groups with the BeoSound Theatre so that I can have what the old Avant used to call Speaker 1, 2, 3, 4 and 5.

                                    When I look around the app I can’t find where I can deactivate speakers I can only adjust their levels etc.

                                    When I play music I would like that only the front left and right and the subwoofer to play. How can I make such a setup? And for e.g. the news just the Theatre.

                                    Is there really no user manual for the Theatre and app?

                                    #13166
                                    NQVHNWI
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                                      BeoMedia,

                                      Ive posted lots on setting up Listening Positions. My Listening positions (all from the same position) are “Video” (5.1), “Centre” (Theatre only), “Narrow” (BL90 Narrow for discerning music), “Wide” and “Omni”. Suggest you review them and the room-sense runs. You can do practically the same thing with Centre, 2.0/2.1, 3.1 and 5.1

                                      #13167
                                      Hereford
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                                        is there no way to prevent the Theatre from hijacking the TV when playing music? i.e. when I want to listen to music on the “good” speakers while my child watches cartoons 😀

                                        #13168
                                        Razlaw
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                                          I can do that with my 28s as fronts using them as the music source, but don’t know of any way to do it otherwise.

                                          #13169
                                          Razlaw
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                                            You should set all speakers (with such a setting option) to free. This is how they were measured in Struer, before adding the values to the BS Theatre for the Room Sense process. A BL2 (or any sub) should be connected with its own PL (with no daisychaining to other BL’s).….otherweise the BS Theatre will not know which values to use, when Room Sensing. According to the BL2 manual, it should be set to 3, since it is connected seperately to the system: “If you have a Dolby Digital system, and therefore no speakers are directly connected to BeoLab 2, we recommend that you set the SETUP switch to 3”. MM

                                            Any idea whether the Phase setting on the 19 is still relevant with a Theatre or does the Theatre’s magic make the Phase switch redundant?

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