[Madskp]

steelpan wrote:

When I press Menu it activates the timer with display “On 0:00”.

Ok that would indicate that you need to press Menu once more to get the timer away. Else the numbers are going into the timer settings.

I have tried this many times probably because I was pressing Menu Menu to fast in a row, so try to adjust the timing between the key presses

steelpan wrote:

the document with the MLGW compatibility is attached. You can find it on the site http://mlgw.bang-olufsen.dk/source/documents/

Thanks a lot. Very usefull. I have nvewer looked at info for the ML gateway, so thats why I did not have that info

[steelpan]

When I press Menu it activates the timer with display “On 0:00”.

Serial No: 18352475

the document with the MLGW compatibility is attached. You can find it on the site http://mlgw.bang-olufsen.dk/source/documents/

[Madskp]

eil047 wrote:

Just to complete the list: a MasterLink Gateway is also an option (if

Even though I am not sure of the capabilities of the MLGW it will not be able to do anything for the BS1 and the Century

[beonoma]

B3OHACK3R wrote:

Hi, I have this fancy circuit here that allows easy communication with any ML device out there. In the other thread I was thinking about a light version that would be more or less an USB-ML converter. https://beoworld.dev.idslogic.net/forums/topic/universal-link-adapter/ You could e.g. connect it to a single-board-computer (Raspberry Pi, etc) and basically do whatever you want. Use it like a MLGW, inject commands, extract commands and have bidirectional audio transmission. Some basic software / tinkering skills required. I would release a few examples how to do certain things but the final implementation would be up to you. It would act like a USB serial converter as well as a USB sound card. For example I’m using it in a setup where it controls a BSys3 that is connected to a LG TV. You would also be able to record analog ML audio and send it to streaming devices / speakers on your network – but that’s up to you then. Who is interested in such a thing? If there are enough people interested I’m happy to build a batch. I’m doing that out of pure fun, there is no commercial intend from my side. Nevertheless of course things do cost money. If it ever materialises I would be happy to tie every sale to some kind of Beoworld donation / sponsorship.

I would LOVE this device!

[B3OHACK3R]

Hi,

I have this fancy circuit here that allows easy communication with any ML device out there. In the other thread I was thinking about a light version that would be more or less an USB-ML converter.

https://beoworld.dev.idslogic.net/forums/topic/universal-link-adapter/

You could e.g. connect it to a single-board-computer (Raspberry Pi, etc) and basically do whatever you want. Use it like a MLGW, inject commands, extract commands and have bidirectional audio transmission.
Some basic software / tinkering skills required. I would release a few examples how to do certain things but the final implementation would be up to you.
It would act like a USB serial converter as well as a USB sound card.

For example I’m using it in a setup where it controls a BSys3 that is connected to a LG TV. You would also be able to record analog ML audio and send it to streaming devices / speakers on your network – but that’s up to you then.

Who is interested in such a thing?

EDIT:
This interface is available now. Please have a look here.

[pilatomic]

Millemissen wrote:

[…] it would potentially work with any B&O master/system with a datalink-based A.Tape input port…..as I assume.

Indeed. I have also tried it with a Beosystem 2500 where it works nicely, providing controls from the Beosystem and its remote, and automatically turning it on / off. Btw it works on A TAPE but also TP2 input (except that on the BM5500, you loose the live status display when using it on the TP2 port).

matador wrote:

Absolutely stunning development. This is Beoworld! Thank you, tank you, thank you! Except for the name… BeoTooth? Honestly, it scares me like an MLGWNL (whatever) box profoundly dug in my human body. Jokes apart, you just made raise BM 5500 prices (jokes not so appart after all…).

Thank you for your enthusiasm, means a lot to me, as I tend to quickly lose my drive after completing a project, and often move to something else without talking much about it. Regarding the name, I know BEOTOOTH sounds a bit cheesy, but it does match the beo* pattern, and it’s cheesy enough that I shouldn’t get in trouble with B&O for using it. If you have a better name in mind, feel free to propose it, nothing is set in stone yet !

B3OHACK3R wrote:

Nice, congrats! Which BT chip are you using?

I did a proof of concept about 2 years ago using an ESP32, but couldn’t get a reliable sound stream with anything other than the default SBC codec (which really isnt that good). I then attempted to pivot to Qualcomm chips, but they are really interested in small volume orders. I ended up using the Microchip BM83 module, which works quite well for my use case, except for its really arcane documentation !

Madskp wrote:

[…] ( I guess that it is other than the BS2500 where this applies?) If it only is a hobby project and you dont want to be a manufactur /seller of these units […]

Indeed status display is only on the BM5500 as far as I know (not too familiar with the entire B&O lineup from that era). But control features works on BS2500, so they should work on any Datalink compatible device, and I have yet to test it with my BS9500 (which is currently in storage).

lausvi wrote:

VERY nice! I’d be surely interested in buying (either pre-made or kit-form, latter preferred) at least a couple!

I’ll see what I can do regarding a kit but I think the only solderable item left would the wiring to the datalink connector. Would that still count as a kit for you ?

skolesen wrote:

Lovely, count me in as well if the price is right.

I will try selling it with the same terms as my Beolink 5000 E-Paper kit, and see how it goes. I haven’t determined a price yet, as there are still some things that needs to change from my prototype, and things I have not taken into account, like proper machining of the connector slots in the enclosure (I really prefer not to show the back of the prototype enclosure, with its very DIY knife cuts), buying the proper screws (my random screws box won’t be able to provides another set of matching screws) and determining the actual assembly time required.

Thank you all for you interest ! I’ll keep you posted

[matador]

Absolutely stunning development. This is Beoworld! Thank you, tank you, thank you!

Except for the name… BeoTooth? Honestly, it scares me like an MLGWNL (whatever) box profoundly dug in my human body.

Jokes apart, you just made raise BM 5500 prices (jokes not so appart after all…).

 

[LukeS]

I think it depends on what you want and how far down the rabbit hole you are willing to go. A 3rd party device like the light manager pro will be simplest. Your BV10 will forward light commands via masterlink if it has the right software version. None of the Beosounds made before the BS4 are able to handle light commands, but all of the beomaster 5500, 6500, 7000 range are. So if all of your equipment is in the same room you could use the BV10 to forward light commands to a Masterlink gateway (very cheap on eBay these days) or a Beolink Gateway. The BLI is probably not a good choice for you given the vintage of your equipment (it’s designed for the newer network link devices).

The MLGW and BLGW offer really powerful automation possibilities beyond light control, but as I say you’ll need to invest more time and effort. With the MLGW you’re really looking at linking it with an external automation system – I can advise further on that but from your original message I think you’d be best off with a light manager pro ?

[B3OHACK3R]

If BV10 has a recent enough firmware installed it will forward all LIGHT commands to ML. From there you can pick it up with e.g. a MLGW and trigger commands on other network connected device. Probably Philips Hue or similar can be made controllable through the Beo 4 like that.

[B3OHACK3R]

Hi,

I would not go so far and say that I reverse engineered the ML protocol. It was done (probably even multiple times) before. For example have a look here: https://github.com/giachello/mlgw
It uses the capability of the MLGW to send and receive raw ML commands.

What is probably more or less new is an independent receiver / sender. The only trick here was to understand what the parity bit does. For receiving this can be ignored but for sending you have to use it. A mark parity bit signals start and end of an telegram while space is used for anything in-between. Apart from that it’s just a differential serial bus running at only +/- 0.25 V.
The addressing and also that lockmaster stuff (which also is already documented on the web) can mostly be ignored if you are just “simulating” a link node. Pretty fault tolerant I would say.

[eromano]

Hi,

I have a BS5 connected to a MLGW and Beolab speakers. The BS5 is plugged to a smart plug to save on energy, and start every morning at a specific hour.

A few minutes (5 min) after switching on the system, a BeoTime turns on the system on N.RADIO. This works quite well.

However, the BeoTime do not switch off the N.RADIO after the ALARM TIMEOUT elapsed time (90 minutes).

Any idea why ? For me it seems like the BM5 or BS5 enters into some kind of sleep mode, and does not receive any IR signal.

Thanks for your feedbacks

Elliot

[Frog]

Well my search continues to solve the issue of getting BBC radio using Beomaster 5 and I’ve just had a thought – which may have wider implications.

my setup is two apartments – one in the uk where I can receive the BBC channels via DAB (on a beocentre 2)and an apartment in Spain. They are linked together via two UniFi Dream Machine Pro routers, so the UK B&O kit is on subnet 192.168.10.0/24 and the Spanish kit is on subnet 192.168.11.0/24. I have ML Gateways and ML/NL gateways in each location

I can happily ping all devices from both locations, but it would be great to be able to add the uk beocentre 2 into my Spanish ML Gateway or ML/NL gateway, but can’t see how to do this. Anyone have any ideas on how this could be done?

[Chucky]

I have only ML sources in the MLGW. All NL sources are in the BLI

 

i would make a backup of your MLGW delete the sources which are NL

[beoandy]

hi kiran,
have you already found a solution? I have the same problem with the bli in connection with a blgw. I now use a mlgw and no blgw for exactly this reason. (the mlgw has no HomeControl overlay) – in the beovision you can select the source for the integration (bli) but this sometimes changes automatically to the blgw. (It would be ideal if you could deactivate the HomeControl overlay on the blgw – but unfortunately this is not possible)

beoandy

[LukeS]

Just to say I have some python code to control Apple Music if you are able to capture the input from ML. I’ve used it with the mlgw and blgw but it could be adapted for other devices. You can get the relevant code (ASBridge.py) on my GitHub here:https://github.com/LukeSpad/BeoGateway/blob/Indigo-Server-Plugin/BeoGateway.indigoPlugin/Contents/Server%20Plugin/Resources/ASBridge.py

 

[matador]

A little bit of philosophy…

Fiddling with old stuff…

If it works you’re so happy. I was amazed that it worked straight on.
Installed, launched, ear music even if not through Beoport, not to mention this so cool and familiar dot matrix font…

Then you start to have “needs”: I need to listen to the AUX.IN, I need to be able to choose that album I didn’t listen for years but I want to listen to now… Even more, I want to understand how it works. Because it works but not as I expect (capital I is an emphasis that English speaking people will miss).

And now here you are: why doesn’t it work?
Because I’m using hardware from the previous century?
Because your network is not 2.4 or 5.0 or a/b/c/d/g/n compliant?
Or maybe it is but you have too much “things” on it (how that?).
Because even if that hardware still seems to works, it is so slow it looks like it don’t? Like parsing the megagigabyte library you built when terabytes became cheap.
Because I lack the logic behind using Masterlink and all its subtleties?
Because I’m just trying to grim a… Citroen into a Mercedes (just don’t have left studies in third class…).

Well, in fact it “does not work” enough for me to drop it.
It works enough for me to continue even if in the end it will be useless.

God, I’d like to have MLGWLNL problems and SPDIFIAA mysteries, But I can’t so here I am, wondering if it’s all stuck just because Mac mini’s USB is only 1.5 and not Terapotatoes kind…

I now remember a quote from a valuable member here, in a topic about “whatever-online-hirez-music-provider” who said: “I just stand up my chair, flip the record, and have all the electronic bits I can hear”.

Please take this as a joke and nothing more, because…

… “This is Beoworld”

[beojeff]

Similarly, the BLI/BLGW/MLGW LIGHT/CONTROL forwarding is activated in the settings (often the hidden settings such as Beosystem 3, Beovision 10, etc.) of Beovisions and Beosystems.

[KolfMAKER]

Hi @Frog

Maybe the info in this thread helps:

https://beoworld.dev.idslogic.net/forums/search/MLGW/

 

By the way, searching is quite easy. If you click on “Forums” in the main menu of Beoworld, you will see the search field.

 

[Frog]

Does anyone have the code to the unpublished MLGW feature? I couldn’t search this forum – maybe I’m missing something, but I couldn’t find a search box.

[Carolpa]

Millemissen wrote:

I wonder what the differences are – and if these differences will be important to me.

some differences

BLI: no support of ML (directly; indirectly with the use of a MLGW of BLGW)

BLI pro: extended Halo support

BLI pro: extended programmable (LUA)

BLI support grouping of Netlink and/or Beocontrollink devices (one is the main, the other follow)